COAL BIN Pics

Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: gambler On: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:34 pm

You had your side boards screwed to the outside of the bin didn't you?
Putting all of the stress on the screws instead of the upright supports.

Can you get some boards (2x10 or2x8 or plywood strips) and cut them to length and pound them down insideyour uprights and shovel the coal from under them and keep adding another on top and work them down. You will still have to shovel some but it would keep the coal from flowing out as you shoveled.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:40 pm

Yes. It was the upright corner that blew out first. There was two 2 x 4s that formed the corner. I had 3" screws holding them together. But not enough screw I think. The screws actually snapped.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: gambler On: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:47 pm

I know the horse is already out of the barn but you could have put a cable or ratchet strap around the top of the bin for a security measure.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Dann757 On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:06 am

I built a deck for my friend here years ago. The inspector was on a power trip. There were a few crumbs in the post holes, he complained about that. They were a foot deeper than code. Then the next inspector who replaced him was more lenient, but he complained about my use of screws where shear was a factor. He said nails have greater shear strength. Then he said, "Ahh it aint goin nowhere." and approved it.
You'll see pics of my new coal bin soon, miracle it hasn't blown out....
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Dann757 On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:07 am

Maybe get a come-along and try to ratchet it back together. Maybe that would pull the coal back in with it. One time when you should poke coal.
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PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:42 am

Sorry to hear you had a blow out. I feel bad for you. The ratchet strap idea sounds good. Putting one near the top and another partway down would help keep other corners from giving way. Maybe lay a couple pieces of plywood up and strap them in. Yaaaa, get the straps on a bit loose. Slide plywood down from the top, slicing through the leaking coal, tighten straps as you go. Then shovel leade coal back in. Make a better repair next yr. That's assuming you can get straps around it.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:59 am

Freddy wrote:Sorry to hear you had a blow out. I feel bad for you. The ratchet strap idea sounds good. Putting one near the top and another partway down would help keep other corners from giving way. Maybe lay a couple pieces of plywood up and strap them in. Yaaaa, get the straps on a bit loose. Slide plywood down from the top, slicing through the leaking coal, tighten straps as you go. Then shovel leade coal back in. Make a better repair next yr. That's assuming you can get straps around it.


Sounds like a plan once the ice and snow melt from last night!
This is why I love these forums... I may never have thought of using my straps, but I have them... and its so simple.. but one person thinks of something that another person overlooks..
I said to my wife the other day, it seems uncomprehendable (sp) how we got by years ago without the Internet.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:07 am

Sorry to hear about the blowout.

Do you why did it blow out, wasn't it reinforced properly? There is a lot of weight pushing outward on the beams. Did you use nails, screws? How long? How many? How far apart were your joists?
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:24 am

WNY wrote:Sorry to hear about the blowout.

Do you why did it blow out, wasn't it reinforced properly? There is a lot of weight pushing outward on the beams. Did you use nails, screws? How long? How many? How far apart were your joists?


I now know I definitly didnt use enough screws. Thats was the problem. I used 3" galv. deck screws. But not enough. I went around the other side last night and added a bunch more screws quick hoping it wont blow out. Before I try to use the straps and pull the side back on, I am going to re-screw (and nail) all the other connections
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: CrabRide On: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:10 pm

New to the forum....My bins also serve as benches during the summer while grilling or out in the pool
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:19 pm

Check these out for a bin . These would be nice for someone that didn't want to build something .
http://www.grain-bins.com/grainbins/grainbins.htm
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: tugcapt On: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:31 pm

looks a little like mine
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: envisage On: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:21 am

tugcapt wrote:looks a little like mine


That is a neat looking bin. How much coal does it hold?
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: tugcapt On: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:20 pm

little over 1 ton
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Kungur On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:57 pm

Just prefabbed these in my shop and hauled the panels to the basement this afternoon. Did the assembly but still have to make up the spacers to acommodate the pallet lift.
Next is to make up my chute and the opening in the house wall then it's time for BULK!
Tom
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