COAL BIN Pics

Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: ohyeahfriday On: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:08 am

Good point, I probably should have given better information in my question.

bin is 45"x140" or just shy of 4' by 12' and height is yet to be determined, but as of now I have a 6' wall in the front framed in as I stated, 16" o.c. The back and right side walls are exterior walls, framed to 16" o.c. with plywood and siding on the exterior. The left side wall is a 16" o.c. wall between the garage and a added on shed (don't ask, I bought the house that way...)What you are seeing in the pic is the right side of the front, and where the plywood stops is where my "door" will be. Just going to do a cheap idea of removable 2x12 screwed to the inside of the studs for now as a quick fix to the door issue.

Thanks again,

Pat
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:07 pm

ohyeahfriday wrote:For those who actually frame out a coal bin, are 2x4 studs 16" o.c. enough to withstand the pressure of the coal?

No problem.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:28 pm

Just make sure your bottom plate is securely attached to the floor.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:29 pm

Edit: Coalkirk beat me to it while I was looking for image. :D

The walls are no problem, every bin I have ever seen break and I've seen a few of them break usually when I was inside it.... They break on the bottom. Usually the wood gets rotted especially around the nails. If you build it like this you wontt have any issues. Matter of act you won't even need to mount the sill plate to the floor. The bars on the outside could be rebar, we had some old steel tent spikes lying around for really large tents but anything will suffice, even some old pipe.

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It's not absolutely necessary but if you put it in like that it's done deal. Bin will be good until you rip it out...
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:35 pm

ohyeahfriday wrote: Just going to do a cheap idea of removable 2x12 screwed to the inside of the studs for now as a quick fix to the door issue.



You don;t need screws, as the bin fills up put the boards in place. The weight of the coal will hold them in place. Leave a 3 or 4 inch gap at bottom so you can shovel the coal out from there. Remove the slats as the coal level drops.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: BigSven On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:32 am

Here is my coal bin. Its 4 feet high on three sides and 3 feet high up front. The floorplan is 4'X8'. Studs are 12 on center and the sides and bottom are 3/4" plywood. Underneath the floor is 4, 4X4 PT posts laying lenghthwise. Everything is screwed together with 3" deck screws. It can hold 3 tons of pea. So far so good, it hasnt broken yet!

I just need to make a lid for it, any ideas?
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: ohyeahfriday On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:16 pm

Well, thanks for the input everybody, looks like I should be ok as it is, but I might consider a little something more for the base to give a little extra prevention of blowout. Now I just have to trim down one more piece for the back wall and finish the "door" and I will put some pics of my creation and get it filled up :D
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:47 pm

BigSven wrote:
I just need to make a lid for it, any ideas?


Think light but strong and be sure it can be removed or the the guy delivering the coal can gain access to the top of it. The best idea I saw was the guy had some of that corrugated fiberglass sheeting he mounted to some conduit. He had some bungy cords inside the bin so the wind couldn't take it. You could lift it with one person. His bin was much smaller though and I don't know if that will work well for you because you won't have enough strength.

If you build a regular roof hinge the plywood itself and don't nail it to the rafters.
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Re: how much coal in the bin

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:06 pm

Noverber 23
eleven ton ready to go
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:08 pm

out side the bin
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:10 pm

outside bin
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:13 pm

can I burn this in AAA260
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:15 pm

looks like black salt
But I think it will burn?
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Charlie Z On: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:12 pm

FWIW: Here's the lidded version of the 3.5 ton bin on page 30 we did last winter. I'd like to put a bench on the front and maybe a window box on the top next spring to blend it into the scene better.

Shovel is from NY Central RR. -Charlie

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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:45 pm

Charlie Z wrote:FWIW: Here's the lidded version of the 3.5 ton bin on page 30 we did last winter. I'd like to put a bench on the front and maybe a window box on the top next spring to blend it into the scene better.

Shovel is from NY Central RR. -Charlie

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Funny you should post this now! Seriously, I was thinking about your bin picture on page 30. I liked the look you have with the vertical recycled cedar boards. I'm planning a deck expansion project and will likely go to composite decking for the reduced maintenance requirement vs the PT I have now. I'll likely make something similar with the old decking although it's nice to just wheel the cart into the woods in summer.
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