COAL BIN Pics

Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:02 am

Nice job loco....good planning and access there to fill it up easily.

Very nice block work jridings!
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: crazy4coal On: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:56 pm

The 2nd board needs a slide gate and a little chute in it so you can put your bucket under it. Going to be ruff getting coal out of when it's up to the top.........just a thought :idea:
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:09 pm

Put a pry bar under the bottom board & pry it up 8-12 inches,you can then shovel coal off the floor,it will gravity feed till the bin level drops. You really do not need the bottom board except to contain the splatter when first filling the bin,keep it sensible simple.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: jridings On: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:16 pm

Thats funny you suggest making a chute in the second board because i actually have the pieces to do it, just need to cut the hole! Im all about working smart, not hard! Thanks for the input!
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Bustedmp On: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:40 pm

Due to the Height from the floor to the bottom of my coal chute, I will be shoveling a good amount of coal towards the end of my bin where I will be installing the slats. I should have a good amount of coal against the slats to install a gate with a small chute to fill my buckets for a while. I will actually be installing a small door 3 ft off the floor where the chute comes in from outside so I can shovel the coal to the other end to squeeze 3 tons in.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Dallas On: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:34 pm

Back, some time ago, I had posted pix of my coal bin and the outside chute going to it.

Since last year, I've had the coal delivered, rather than hauling it myself. So to make the most of it, I ordered 3 tons, however the indoor bin only holds 2 tons. Last year, I just had them chute the extra ton onto my brick patio, then I shoveled it in, as space permitted.

This year, I went a step further ... I cut a hole to coincide with my outside chute into a 300 gallon IBC tote. I then installed the tote over the chute. I had coal delivered today and everything worked out, as I had hoped. The bin and tote were both filled through the top of the tote. I now have 3 ton in stock, 2 in the basement and 1 in the tote, which will run into the basement coal bin, as I use the coal. After the tote is empty, I can remove it, by simply lifting it off of the chute and storing it out of the way.

Not really "pretty", but it will save me some work through the winter. And, .. it does look better than a ton of coal on the patio.

Added a pic of my load of totes. The remainder, will be used for firewood.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:47 pm

Wonderfull idea!!!
I am a IBC tote user also. I use a pallet jack to place them over my AA boiler's auger...after one empties, I remove it and then roll the next full one in. Off season they're stored outback and that leaves me more room around the boiler area during the off season. :)
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PostBy: Bustedmp On: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:26 pm

I have my coal bin and inside chute completed, but have a question about the chute I will be using from my truck/trailer into my house. I have a sheet of .063" thick aluminum that I would like to bend into a nice light coal chute. Will that material be thick enough for a 6 to 7 ft long chute unsupported for the length once I get the sides bent up?
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Pacowy On: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:36 pm

If you have any doubts after bending it up, you can strengthen it by securing the bent-up sides to the flat sides of 2x3's or 2x4's. Not quite as light, but easy to do and plenty strong.

Mike
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Bustedmp On: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:33 pm

I guess I'll find out soon enough. For the most part, the size will be 9"x3" for a length of about 3 or 4ft and widening it out near the top to make it easier to shovel into it. I am limited to the 9x3 at the bottom due to the size of the door installed under my front porch way before I purchased the house.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Idomeneus On: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:02 am

I know I saw somewhere in these 50+ pages a list of how much bin space you need per ton of coal. Does anyone have that measurement? I am trying to build something in my basement for 10 tons. 1/2 plywood and 2x4s sound right? I would attach the 2x4s to the joists above and into the cement below.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:51 am

I think the normal allowance is 40 cubic feet per ton. I'd suggest using PT for the 2x4's that go in or on the basement floor, and putting the plywood on the "inside" of the 2x4's. And don't skimp on the spacing of the 2x4's.

Mike
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:07 am

I used 3/4" plywood on the inside of my bin, 2x4's on 16" centers. Might have been overkill since mine only holds about 2 ton, your 10 ton = more side load pressure. Maybe others that have used 1/2" can let us know from their experience if it is beefy enough. You may want some cross ties to help keep the walls from spreading.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Idomeneus On: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:42 am

What about using pallets as the lower wall with a thinner plywood covering on the inside. I have tons of pallets. I could anchor them to the floor.
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Re: COAL BIN Pics

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:01 am

It might be a hassle to support the "seams" between the pallets. Probably easiest to just keep the 2x4's spaced reasonably close (16" sounds good), which should let you use 1/2" plywood.

I guess a question that needs to be asked is how deep are you planning for the bin to be filled? A 12x12 bin filled approx. 2.75' deep puts a lot less stress on the sidewalls than would an 8x10 bin filled 5' deep.

Mike
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