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PostBy: Johnny5 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:20 pm

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PostBy: Johnny5 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:21 pm

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PostBy: joeq On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:51 pm

So, you're like me Johnny, and want to "supplement" your oil furnace. If oil is readily available to you, I wouldn't remove the furnace either.
So next question is, where would be the best place in your cellar for another chimney/power vent? Could you centrally locate your stove, maybe near a stairwell, or have options for floor venting? Maybe locate your chimney on your backyard wall? And maybe you could find something to tie your hot air into existing duct work. It appears you have forced hot air. lots of options to consider.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson
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Stove/Furnace Model: oil fired

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PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:55 pm

If a coal burner can be set fairly close to that chimney,there seems to be no apparent reason not to hook the coal burner to the chimney & the oil burner to an alternative exhaust system.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
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PostBy: warminmn On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:59 pm

Windy may have a good point if you are set on a basement setup, but If there is any way to put the coal stove on your main floor that is what I'd do and leave your basement furnace alone. Anthracite isnt as dirty as burning wood but there will be some ash.... kind of depends on how careful you are when removing your ash pan.

Check out this post of stove picture setups and it may give you some ideas regardless of what you decide to do. Pictures of your stove
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin, Frankenstove
Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite. Soft coal
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PostBy: Johnny5 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:03 pm

We were thinking of putting it on the back of the house wall or the side of the house opposite of the driveway. Thinking of letting it heat across the basement and keeping the basement door cracked open to try and get the warm air to come in. I could try to tie it into my existing forced hot air vents but I'm afraid my brother in law is too lazy to go through the trouble and im not as handy as he. :D,I nearly cut my fingers off today with a leaf mulcher. Still in pain.
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PostBy: Johnny5 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:04 pm

I'd love to setup a stove on the main floor but unfortunately it would take up too much real estate.
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PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:09 pm

warminmn wrote:Windy may have a good point if you are set on a basement setup, but If there is any way to put the coal stove on your main floor that is what I'd do and leave your basement furnace alone. Anthracite isnt as dirty as burning wood but there will be some ash.... kind of depends on how careful you are when removing your ash pan.

Check out this post of stove picture setups and it may give you some ideas regardless of what you decide to do. Pictures of your stove


I personally prefer to have my handfed stove in my living room where i can feel the bone warming heat & watch the coal burn.. those pretty blue flames are very intriguing .
If you install it in your living area,you likely want to look for a stove that will look good to the occupants.
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PostBy: Johnny5 On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:11 pm

I'm building a man cave down there,it'll be my hangout spot.
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PostBy: warminmn On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:42 pm

Johnny5 wrote:I'm building a man cave down there,it'll be my hangout spot.


i hope your a nudist as its gonna be awful hot near a stove large enough to also heat your upstairs. Maybe you could wear shorts on the other side of the basement away from the stove. (sarcasm but kind of true)

a few well placed vents thru the floor will do as much or more good than a fan. If you do go thru with putting a stove down there, dont cut any holes in your floor until you draw a layout of your basement and house and post it here. These guys and gals can really help with hole placement for maximum heat movement, as much or more than the help you will get about a stove.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin, Frankenstove
Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite. Soft coal
Other Heating: wood

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PostBy: joeq On: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:29 pm

Johnny5 wrote:We were thinking of putting it on the back of the house wall or the side of the house opposite of the driveway. Thinking of letting it heat across the basement and keeping the basement door cracked open to try and get the warm air to come in. I could try to tie it into my existing forced hot air vents but I'm afraid my brother in law is too lazy to go through the trouble and im not as handy as he. :D,I nearly cut my fingers off today with a leaf mulcher. Still in pain.

If you put your stove on an end wall, and your stairwell is in the middle, it'll be harder for heat to transfer up-stairs, unless you put vents in your floor as warmin suggested. If you plan on a cellar installation, and want to heat the up-stairs too, the closer to the stairwell you are, the more effective the system will operate. I'm assuming you plan on keeping your cellar door open. Of course you're gunna hear the importance of the returns also.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson
Stove/Furnace Make: Thermopride
Stove/Furnace Model: oil fired

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PostBy: Johnny5 On: Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:57 am

What are returns?
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PostBy: cabinover On: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:11 am

That setup is just begging for a boiler and heat exchanger. Already have all the ductwork done.....just sayin. ;)
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PostBy: joeq On: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:28 am

Johnny5 wrote:What are returns?

Your furnace already has its own return Johnny. It's the cold section of ductwork tied into your system. In order for heat to rise, it needs to displace the cold air in the room/nouse. The better your returns are, the better the heat will flow. I'm sure some-one here can describe it better than me. I'm off to work. have a good day all.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson
Stove/Furnace Make: Thermopride
Stove/Furnace Model: oil fired

Re: Newb Here With ?s

PostBy: warminmn On: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:20 am

Johnny5 wrote:What are returns?


Joeq described a return well.

If you get as far as having the stove in place, come back here with a layout. It is a very important part of a basement setup and makes the difference between the house being easy to heat or having cold spots. Theres no need to guess at it as there are enough installers on this site that really know the air movement stuff.
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Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite. Soft coal
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