Ventless Clothes Dryer

Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: 2biz On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:58 am

I did a quick search of the forum and didn't see anything about this new (To The U.S) Technology... Also didn't know where to put this post, although it does have to do with venting...

I am in the process of installing my new LL AK-110 Stoker and was doing some brushing up on cold air returns and such...Came across this new ventless clothes dryer technology.... Since the goal is to keep as much heat in the house as possible, it got my attention. Before finding this, I didn't realize a full size clothes dryer like we have pulls 230cfm of conditioned (Cooled or heated) air out of the house. To put it in perspective, it takes 69 minutes to completely suck all the heated air out of my 2000 sq ft ranch! In which replacement air is getting sucked in anywhere it can! Definitely got the gears turning! No wander I can feel cold air coming in around things like Outlets in the dead of winter! Yes even outlets! And I thought I had a fairly decent insulated brick ranch!

So just throwing this out there for discussion....Anybody have any experiences with these Condensing (Heat Pump) style ventless dryers? Would definitely ease the heat and cooling load on any HVAC system and give a decent ROI because of the energy efficiency...

http://laundry.reviewed.com/features/ev ... ess-dryers
2biz
 
Other Heating: Leisure Line AK-110, Firechief FC700e, Propane logs, Propane Ceramic 3 Burner Heater


Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:11 pm

They are very inefficient and take a long time to dry clothes. You'll need a way to vent your frustration if you get one.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:24 pm

http://www.abt.com/product/87764/Whirlp ... 9HEDW.html

Read the reviews ....

You're basically buying a heater and an air conditioner :)

Just more to break IMO
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:39 pm

Put your washer and dryer in a small room and install make up air. (crack a window) ;)
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Baseburners & Antiques: Home Sparkle 12
Coal Size/Type: Coal Contractor's stove, a little Kimmels 'nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:54 pm

coaledsweat wrote:They are very inefficient and take a long time to dry clothes. You'll need a way to vent your frustration if you get one.


How big a vent is required ??
Where would be the ideal place for venting to ??
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: tsb On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:07 pm

Got one. ( Bosch )

Uses a little more juice.
You have to clean out the lint.
You can put it anywhere.
Expensive little booger.
Hang your clothes outside when you can.
tsb
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Binford 2000
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Saey Hanover II
Baseburners & Antiques: Grander Golden Oak , Glenwood # 6
Coal Size/Type: All of them

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:16 pm

Get a standard dryer and one of these if you want to keep your air inhouse.

http://www.houzz.com/photos/72699847/Be ... appliances
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:51 pm

coaledsweat wrote:Get a standard dryer and one of these if you want to keep your air inhouse.

http://www.houzz.com/photos/72699847/Be ... appliances



https://youtu.be/KksTAghMajk?t=51

Review of similar product .... sounds good but ain't


https://youtu.be/qlmv9DQYcvk?t=105

Or maybe one can make their own lint bucket? ^^ "Collects ALMOST all the lint".... LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTBy3oIOgKg

How to vid for bucket venter ^^
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503


Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:17 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:Get a standard dryer and one of these if you want to keep your air inhouse.

http://www.houzz.com/photos/72699847/Be ... appliances



https://youtu.be/KksTAghMajk?t=51

Review of similar product .... sounds good but ain't

That thing is less than a quarter of the size of the one I posted. I installed one for a friend. It works very well and has a proprietary two stage filter. The problem I have is that it must be cleaned every load or efficiency takes a beating. I am also not a fan of pumping all the humidity into the house. In winter it's not a bad idea, but summer months and it is coo coo. I'm not a fan of ventless anyway, would not go that route myself.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:08 pm

If you want a truly ventless clothes dryer,.... that also helps humidify the house in dry winter weather,... doesn't beat and wear out your clothes into lint needing to be filtered out,...and doesn't need any electricity to do all that, ...

Clothes line + coal stove. ;)

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:15 pm

+1 in the winter & cloths line in the summer--economic & no breakage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:34 pm

A cracked window in the laundry room does a lot to not pull air from every crack in the house.

For my house I would need 500' of clothes line to keep up.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:53 pm

Here ya go, Rob, five ventless clothes dryers to handle your situation. And all for $49.20, plus shipping. Works 24/365 and even during power outages ! :D

https://www.amazon.com/Household-Essent ... othes+line

Or, ...... having lived with a wife and four daughters who were all wardrobe queens, I know that even this one works, 'cause we had one to go with our biggest capacity washing machine available.

https://www.amazon.com/Jusdreen-Four-ar ... line&psc=1

And I know that your clever enough to be able to mount it next to a coal stove. ;)

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:11 pm

Paul, I have caved in on the laundry. Been there and done that with the rope and the one that looks like an antenna. I turned an old bathroom in the upstairs of the house into a laundry room, now the laundry has to go a maximum of 15' to get washed and dried. I have the biggest washer and dryer that will fit in the house...cut the laundry time in half and knocked the electric bill down about ~20$ per month also. Having unlimited hot water from a coal boiler and cheap electric helps also.

In the winter when the EFM is cranking I do hang up some of the heavy stuff in the basement. The rest of it never comes downstairs.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Ventless Clothes Dryer

PostBy: 2biz On: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:23 pm

More interesting stuff!

http://www.builditsolar.com/Experimenta ... oDryer.htm

Don't know if I'd go this far, but still interesting...It would fix the "Infiltration" issue!
2biz
 
Other Heating: Leisure Line AK-110, Firechief FC700e, Propane logs, Propane Ceramic 3 Burner Heater