Coal Inserts

Coal Inserts

PostBy: Smart_Ash On: Mon. May. 01, 2017 6:16 pm

I've been looking for a coal insert and I can only find two. Hitzer makes one and DS Machine. I like the DS for the thermostatic air inlet. Are these the only two out there? Anyone have any experience with the new DS insert?
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: joeq On: Mon. May. 01, 2017 7:34 pm

If I had a fireplace, I would get a coal insert. Maybe even one of the antiques, that our members William, Paulie, Nortcan, and others own. I like the idea. If you punch in coal inserts, into the search bubble above, it will lead you to lots of discussions about them. Happy hunting, good luck, and please post your findings. :)
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Mon. May. 01, 2017 7:53 pm

There are others, just not in current production.

Harmon Magnafire

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Looking at current production, you may be right that your choice is limited.



This the DS ?

I have the Hitzer 503 ... know nothing about the DS tho.
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon. May. 01, 2017 8:23 pm

I thought Keystoker made a coal fueled insert also.
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: Smart_Ash On: Mon. May. 01, 2017 8:26 pm

Yes that's the DS. I really like the hopper and thermostatic air inlet. I think the DS looks a tad better than the Hitzer too.
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Mon. May. 01, 2017 11:03 pm

Smart_Ash wrote:Yes that's the DS. I really like the hopper and thermostatic air inlet. I think the DS looks a tad better than the Hitzer too.


Hitzer 503 also has a hopper, its removable too ... the thermostatic air inlet? Sounds like an un-needed thing.

Burning coal is what they do ... burn coal is what you gonna do !
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 6:20 am

I'm not familiar with either as far as hands on, but I'll swear by the bi-metallic thermo on my 50-93--is that what you're referring to S?? For the record--not a big insert fan here!!
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: Gian4 On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 9:52 am

I've owned a Hitzer 503 for 7 years and love it. I've looked at the videos of the DS machine and like the idea of the thermostat control. A couple of things to consider. On the DS machine the blower fan is located in the rear of the unit. This means that to clean the blower at the end of the season or to replace the blower when it fails (and it will) you will have to haul that bad boy out of the fireplace. Also from watching the video the hopper lid and loading system seems unduly complicated with a funky latch and a special coal hod required. This unit still seems to be in the development stage.
The Hitzer is a very solid design that is easy to operate and maintain. In my opinion that out weighs the advantage of the thermostat.
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: Pauliewog On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 10:29 am

Alaska also makes coal fireplace inserts. The Kast II and Kast III are their current models.

Paulie
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 7:59 pm

My Hitzer 983 didn't have a hopper so I can't comment on a hopper but I never felt I needed one on It, From looking at all the others I was drawn to the Hitzer as Its very simple and built like a brick *censored* house. I often thought about adding a thermostat to mine as with a heavy drafting chimney I had a hard time keeping consistent temps so for me that would be a plus but I would go with a Hitzer again without a doubt. I would really think about the DS as like someone said about the blower, they have been known to go bad and when It does you will need to shut it down and pull the stove to replace it, Inserts do not heat worth a *censored* without a blower so thats something you need to keep in mind.
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 8:17 pm

Keepaeyeonit wrote:My Hitzer 983 didn't have a hopper so I can't comment on a hopper but I never felt I needed one on It, From looking at all the others I was drawn to the Hitzer as Its very simple and built like a brick *censored* house. I often thought about adding a thermostat to mine as with a heavy drafting chimney I had a hard time keeping consistent temps so for me that would be a plus but I would go with a Hitzer again without a doubt. I would really think about the DS as like someone said about the blower, they have been known to go bad and when It does you will need to shut it down and pull the stove to replace it, Inserts do not heat worth a *censored* without a blower so thats something you need to keep in mind.


I'll be running my 503 w/o a hopper next season.....and the DS needing to be pulled out to change a blower (Hitzer 503 is easy...its on the side in front) is something for the OP to consider.

I've changed 3 blowers on my Hitzer (one orig. lasted 5 yrs[other still going]...and 2 cheepos [twenty dollar ones] lasted about 1-2 yrs each). I can change them in my sleep now.

And yes, inserts don't provide a lot of heating w/o the blowers. I always keep at least one pair of cheepos in reserve.

I guess one could always have the wifey running a bellow to get the heat out !
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Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 8:32 pm

Oh yeah--that would work real well I'm sure!! :lol:
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Re: Coal Inserts

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue. May. 02, 2017 8:54 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote:
.......................... I guess one could always have the wifey running a bellow to get the heat out !


Sounds like sure way to get smothered in your sleep. :D

Paul
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