Who was the worst president in your life time

Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: ktm rider On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:06 am

LsFarm wrote:Make that X4
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444 days that is how long Carter ALLOWED Iran to toy with 52 American lives. He folded up like a cheap card table when pressured by a crappy third world country like Iran.



Oh Yes, oil shortages,fuel rationing, 20% interest rates, all time high unemployment rates, those certainly were the good ol' days. So much so that America woke up and this happened.



Thankfully this man put America BACK on track and in the process, became one of the best Presidents this country has EVER seen.. .
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: EnergyManager On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:51 am

While Carter had his problem he at least had the start of an energy policy. Which was quickly dismantled by the Republicans. And why shouldn’t the Republicans dismantle it because the rules that apply to everyone else are really not for them. You put an oil man in the White House and what do you get, lower oil prices, I think not. George Bush Jr. has done more to make the USA a second class country than any other President. Wake up and smell the roses (Which are probably imported from another country). In the meantime all Bush’s family and friends will have become multi-millionaire from the price of oil. Jimmy Carter left the White House 28 years ago and the Republicans are still trying to blame today’s problems on him. Just look at the last 7.5 years and you will see the mismanagement at the top. One simple question where is “Our Energy Policy, George”? But that is a far too difficult question for George, better ask Dick this one. His answer will be OIL.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: ktm rider On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:14 am

EnergyManager wrote:While Carter had his problem he at least had the start of an energy policy.



Well, I bet those 52 hostages slept a bit better in their rat infested cells knowing that Carter intitated an energy policy while they were being held against their will in a foreign country.
This just in.... Bush and his oil buddies were multi millionaires BEFORE he ever took office.

BTW-- I guess it was just fine that Carter pardoned ALL the draft dodging cowards that left the country instead of fighting like real men.. .
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: EnergyManager On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:28 am

This just in.... Bush and his oil buddies were multi millionaires BEFORE he ever took office.


Sorry but Bush has ruined this country, I hope your children like working overseas because that where they need to go to find a good job...

Bush has not taken care of the American people he has taken care of his multi-billionaire buddies.

And what about American Military Casualties in Iraq since the war began (3/19/03): 4085. And don't forget the lack of or poor medical treatment when our service men and women return. (Walter Reed) Bush has been a loser but the right wing is just too arrogant to admit it or maybe too stupid. And back to the point. “Bush has no energy policy”
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: billw On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:25 am

Sorry but Bush has ruin this country, I hope your children like working overseas because that where they need to go to find a good job...


While I'm not a fan of this administration this exodus of American jobs started long before him. Nafta was negotiated by Bush 1 and signed into law by the Clinton administration. Clinton also gave 'most favored nation' trade status to Communist China. There's more than enough blame to go around. Hey, politicians don't look out for the American citizen, they look out for themselves and the lobbyists that paid to put them in office. Both parties do the same thing. Screw all politicians.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: stoker-man On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:24 am

, 20% interest rates,
1978-79

At the time, I was buying heavy equipment for my woodworking business and I would get a price on a Monday, only to have it increase by the end of the week. No price was guaranteed at that time for more than a day.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: EnergyManager On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:47 pm

This is how it works in the Bush Family:

Silverado Savings and Loan collapsed in 1988, costing taxpayers $1.6 billion. Neil Bush, son of then Vice President of the United States George H. W. Bush, was Director of Silverado at the time. Neil Bush was accused of giving himself a loan from Silverado, but he denied all wrongdoing.

Neil Bush paid a $50,000 fine and was banned from banking activities for his role in taking down Silverado, which cost taxpayers $1.3 billion. A Resolution Trust Corporation Suit against Bush and other officers of Silverado was settled in 1991 for $26.5 million.

A Republican fundraiser set up a fund to help defer costs Neil Bush incurred in his S&L dealings.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:53 pm

billw wrote: Hey, politicians don't look out for the American citizen, they look out for themselves and the lobbyists that paid to put them in office. Both parties do the same thing. Screw all politicians.


Exactly.... and they'll screw us even before they'll screw the guy from the other party. We absolutely need a viable third party in this country or even a fourth, fifth and sixth. We also need to impose term limits on these very high offices like Senators and Representatives. That will weed out the long term politicians and get some real representation in there.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:17 pm

I'll second that . This country needs a breath of fresh air. The main problem is trying to get people to do public service. Smart people. Public service is a real in your face thing these days and there aren't alot of people who can stand up to the spotlight.There needs to be limits imposed on the press. I don't mean the kind of limits that crunches freedom of press but the kind that keeps the press from flat out harrassing people. :) Scott
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:35 pm

The press is certainly a problem, I really can care less who my congressman slept with or his personal life as long as he has had very successful professional life e.g. a guy that can get a job done.

The other problem with getting new people in office is they can't change anything. There's a guy running locally here on a "no earmark" campaign which is great however if he gets elected hes probably not going to stay elected for very long when his district isn't getting any funding. What's he going to do? Vote against any bill that has no pork in it? :lol: Might as well just put him down for a no vote on every bill...
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:30 pm

I cant ever remember a President who took over a strong economy with the middle class doing well & then spent us into a huge deficit , made it impossible to drive your car, heat your home or even buy food! It is directly from GW Bush's arrogant "Let me take care of my rich friends" winks toward big business that has led us into the catastrophe that this country is in right now.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:19 pm

Devil5052 wrote:I cant ever remember a President who took over a strong economy with the middle class doing well & then spent us into a huge deficit , made it impossible to drive your car, heat your home or even buy food! It is directly from GW Bush's arrogant "Let me take care of my rich friends" winks toward big business that has led us into the catastrophe that this country is in right now.


Hmmmm... If I remember correctly it was dems running congress for last 2 years when all this happened. ;)

In any event they are all to blame, no sense laying it one person. Last i checked it was congress that wrote the bills.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Yanche On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:11 pm

All the Presidents have good and bad. Only history shows in comparison to other Presidents and the events of their presidency which were the great ones. For me Nixon was the worst for his Watergate cover up. Thank god there were those with character who refused his orders and resigned. He shook the foundations of the country.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:12 pm

Richard S. wrote:Hmmmm... If I remember correctly it was dems running congress for last 2 years when all this happened. ;)


The Dems didn't have enough votes (60 needed in the Senate) to override GW's many veto's or force a change in any of his policies. Congress has written many good bills that were vetoed by Bush. (one that didn't pass was a bill advocating paying for Iraq veterans college expenses....but neither GW or Sen. McCain supported it......Unconscionable!)
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:32 pm

Devil5052 wrote:but neither GW or Sen. McCain supported it......Unconscionable!)


Well lets hear the whole story huh? If you check the stance by McCain on it he did support an alternate bill that would have provided the Veterans with X amount of college tuition based on the years of service. Many of them are already getting an education they can't get anywhere else.

http://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/hp ... D_COX.html

Webb's proposal would provide the same education benefits to veterans without regard to the number or re-enlistments, whereas a counter measure from McCain would provide benefits on a sliding scale based on a veterans' length of service.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, one of McCain's principal allies in the fight, wrote in an op-ed article for Memorial Day that Webb's bill "views the military as a stepping-stone to another career," encouraging active duty military to leave the service to use their education benefits. The McCain approach, on the other hand, "recognizes the military as a career and concentrates on retaining the skilled and trained enlistees who are vital to an all-volunteer force," Cornyn wrote.
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