Who was the worst president in your life time

Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:21 pm

WAS being the oprative word here I hope to say Obananna nanna boingo was..... come the end of this year....
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:17 pm

I like Ike.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: homecomfort On: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:46 pm

I AM impressed, that so many of the predominately conservative republicans on this web site admit the G.W. Bush folly. although some ol' coots still think that an office BJ, and a treasury surplus, is worse than the national financial disaster brought on the country by said folly ist. {sic} All we know, is we want O,, bama that is. we being the selfLess thinkers.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:55 pm

homecomfort wrote:I AM impressed, that so many of the predominately conservative republicans on this web site admit the G.W. Bush folly. although some ol' coots still think that an office BJ, and a treasury surplus, is worse than the national financial disaster brought on the country by said folly ist. {sic} All we know, is we want O,, bama that is. we being the selfLess thinkers.


If GWB is the worst, then BHO has to be neck and neck.

Most of the same players and all of the same policies!
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:00 pm

homecomfort wrote:All we know, is we want O,, bama that is. we being the selfLess thinkers.


Since there is no such thing as a mind/body dichotomy, a selfless thinker is also a mindless thinker. And since a mindless thinker is a nonsensical conflict of terms, you are obviously neither selfless nor mindless. Though sometimes you seem to be trying quite hard to accomplish this obvious impossibility, in the end you are merely a self deluded troll.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:08 pm

lsayre wrote:And since a mindless thinker is a nonsensical conflict of terms, you are obviously neither selfless nor mindless. Though sometimes you seem to be trying quite hard to accomplish this obvious impossibility,

You have to give him A for effort.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:25 am

lsayre wrote:
homecomfort wrote:All we know, is we want O,, bama that is. we being the selfLess thinkers.


Since there is no such thing as a mind/body dichotomy, a selfless thinker is also a mindless thinker. And since a mindless thinker is a nonsensical conflict of terms, you are obviously neither selfless nor mindless. Though sometimes you seem to be trying quite hard to accomplish this obvious impossibility, in the end you are merely a self deluded troll.


Wow! well said. I nominate you for post of the month! ;)
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:41 am

Forgive me for I have sinned in the eyes of many but I don't care for it's the truth, the beginning of the downturn we are in now.
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/02/20/ro ... dent-ever/
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:28 am

I believe that Jimmy Carter was the worst President in my lifetime. The country was in a depressed state (of mind) and Ronald Reagan was the panacea the country needed.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: xaos On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:35 am

Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan,Bush1 & Bush 2..

But Reagan's policies "Reaganomics" are still hurting us 30 years later.
My favorite was the"Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982".
Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years he was in office and the tax increases were felt hardest by the lower and middle class.
His attack's on Unions and the Middle Class are still being felt in the Mon Valley Steel mill areas.
Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, he then began raising taxes on the middle and lower class. "The Conservative Mantra"
Corporations started to ship more jobs out of the United States while hiring cheap foreign labor in order to make a bigger profit.
The national debt tripled under his polices.
The Iran/Contra debacle and let us not forget the funding of the "Freedom Fighters" in Afghanistan.
Better known as the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden..
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:46 am

xaos wrote:Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan,Bush1 & Bush 2..

But Reagan's policies "Reaganomics" are still hurting us 30 years later.
My favorite was the"Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982".
Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years he was in office and the tax increases were felt hardest by the lower and middle class.
His attack's on Unions and the Middle Class are still being felt in the Mon Valley Steel mill areas.
Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, he then began raising taxes on the middle and lower class. "The Conservative Mantra"
Corporations started to ship more jobs out of the United States while hiring cheap foreign labor in order to make a bigger profit.
The national debt tripled under his polices.
The Iran/Contra debacle and let us not forget the funding of the "Freedom Fighters" in Afghanistan.
Better known as the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden..


I have a conservative mindset, dont spend more than you bring in and save some for issues that later arise. I dont really agree with the reaganomics myself. I hear this from sooo many co-workers on how reaganomics hurt the "working man" So when I hear the term reaganomics I have a slight cringe. I cannot understand why Reagan is revered as a great. Hey did get our folks outta Iran but you can argue not electing Carter and electing someone else could have done the same. SO far all I have read about reagan, makes me question why any "middle class" person would want a president to follow his economic policies.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:51 pm

samhill wrote:Forgive me for I have sinned in the eyes of many but I don't care for it's the truth, the beginning of the downturn we are in now.
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/02/20/ro ... dent-ever/


Another one of your far-left websites, no wonder you're so biased.

All I know is I live within my means; and I make my living from people who can afford to pay me. Therefore I am biased toward trickle-down economics which has always worked for me. It doesn't work for people that don't want work, who therefore become dependant on the welfare nannystate bigger and bigger government ideology. Things were booming in the Reagan years; how about now after a term of left-wing socialist ideology?
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:06 pm

Dann757 wrote:
All I know is I live within my means; and I make my living from people who can afford to pay me. Therefore I am biased toward trickle-down economics ...


I guess from this point of view (people who can afford to pay me) This makes sense with the "trickle down" effect. But I work in a manufacturing environment. When its folks of all incomes that purchase my product. I guess I can see where the trickle effect impacts the business I work for. But bigger ideas on tax reform are out thier. Say a straight % across the board, nothing to gripe about then. Different % for different types of incomes like investment returns, income, inheritance etc . Say your retired and collecting dividends on purchased investments, a different % etc. Offer a reduced % for corporate investments out a paycheck, say your pay was 1500.00 and you invested 100$ in company stock then you pay taxes on 1400.00. Follow me? Like Freetown puts it, Keep it simple stupid.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:21 pm

anthony7812 wrote:I have a conservative mindset, dont spend more than you bring in and save some for issues that later arise. I dont really agree with the reaganomics myself. I hear this from sooo many co-workers on how reaganomics hurt the "working man" So when I hear the term reaganomics I have a slight cringe. I cannot understand why Reagan is revered as a great. Hey did get our folks outta Iran but you can argue not electing Carter and electing someone else could have done the same. SO far all I have read about reagan, makes me question why any "middle class" person would want a president to follow his economic policies.

Reaganomics is the belief that allocating more of available capital toward the productive part of the economy will result in lower unemployment and higher revenues for the government as well as higher prosperity for all. That all happened as well as forcing the collapse of the Soviet Union and inflation was brought under control. Twenty years of unprecedented prosperity followed. The belief that somehow allocating more money to government will create prosperity just defies all logic. We see the proof of that in our present economy which almost no one believes can be sustained under present practice.

President Kennedy had similar economic views, and to be fair the harsh measures to contain inflation came under Jimmy Carter for which he had to suffer undeservedly. His weak handling of foreign affairs was his undoing.
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Re: Who was the worst president in your life time

PostBy: cokehead On: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:27 pm

It is so hard to pick just one! I have to go with Nixon in that he really kicked off what we have going on today.
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