IMAGINE: A DAILY COMMUTE WITHOUT USING A DROP OF GAS

Wood'nCoal wrote:But right now the Volt is going over like a turd at a social.

The price needs to come down, which can happen with higher production quantities, which can happen when the price comes down, etc. etc. Hard to get momentum, especially when you are talking about General Motors whom you can't trust because you don't know whether the product will be good or will be total *censored*. From what I have read, the Nissan Leaf is getting off to a better start.

But don't forget, this thread was revived by a posting about government subsidies provided directly or indirectly to electric cars. The subsidies cover battery technology and production, and other components as well. In theory, progress in those areas will remain even if the Volt itself fails. It makes sense for the government to try to jump start new technologies like these, rather than just cede them to China and Korea and Japan whose governments are certainly doing it. How else will the USA ever again be a manufacturer instead of just a consumer?

America has invented just about anything that is worth inventing. Tort reform (hang AATL members), massive tax rebates for innovation, shrink govt and reduce taxation, decimate regulation shut a whole list of govt agencies. Big govt has not been or ever will be the answer to anything. I am inventing a device to solve all this. Put a big engine in a big chassis and house thirty people at a time. I will call this invention a bus - patents being filed as we speak. All metro areas over 1 million people ALL cars banned. ALL auto lobbyists that have created this mess hanged. Millions less cars, a ton less oil imported. When will you guys get the fact that electrical transmission is about 24% efficient AND we don't (and never will have) have the extra capacity anyway. Geez, where do you guys get these stupid ideas.

From what I have read, the Nissan Leaf is getting off to a better start.

Consumer Reports tested the Leaf, their results indicated an average range of 75 miles of city driving. Go out on the highway and you'll go about 65 miles. That's without using the heating or air conditioning. The results also showed that a recharge to full capacity with the 220 v charging station takes 6 hours, with the 110 v connection-16 hours.

Oh no...there's a Volt forum...

http://gm-volt.com/forum/forumdisplay.p ... 32cfc2b1e6

Freddy wrote:

I'm On Fire wrote:Fred, that bike is awesome. Can you build me one?

I could.... but you'd have to plug it in!

That'd be fine. Since it'd only be a toy anyway. If it were a car that I'd have to drive everyday to and from work it'd be annoying. But as a toy and a weekend rider then it'll be ok.

sooner, than later, oil is going to become crazy expensive, as the easy to get stuff is consumed. then prices will really be high, and many will be thankful that some at least tried to find alternative ways of transportation. and the term ecoloonie will be lost forever.

Wow, these guys in the DOE are bright.

I suggested a thing I was going to invent called a bus sometime ago but the name did not catch on. Now Stevie boy and Obummer having spent another trillon on nothing are inventing a thing called a street car.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon ... treetcars/

These guys are smart!!!!! Who would have thunk it.

Don't know why they ever got rid of the streetcars for the inner cities, a lot quieter,whole lot less oil used. I grew up riding them, real nice smooth ride, I think they may have been phased out when the Gov. in the big cities took over the transportation. I know around Pittsburgh it seems they have the extended buses running in off peak hours & on the back streets so no one is allowed to park. Most of the shopping areas around there are pretty good until they start the buses going directly to them & bringing in all the gang bangers then the shoppers leave to go to the newer mall & the old one shuts down & the cycle begins again. All those years people were able to catch a streetcar but now their too lazy & expect a bus at their door. Can you imagine I even survived them before AC, that would be impossible today.

I can just imagine having to dodge those things, in addition to all the moron drivers in the city ......

Wonder how many Priuses & Leafs we'll find wedged under the front of those?


No thanks!

Smitty, with the old ones they had it was the back end that swung wide, even more so than a school bus but that was the days of the big cars & everybody knew to watch out but then again they all knew how to drive & even spoke English to boot.