switching from oil

switching from oil

PostBy: jnn On: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:11 pm

hi have a oil fired steam furnace with radiators for heating. i want to switch to coal, but i;m not sure where to go for help. Should I completely change my heating system to coal or supplement with a coal stove? Either way, I need a knowledgeable dealer? Any suggestions...thanks I live in NE Pa.
jnn
 

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:37 pm

Welcome to the forum.

You couldn't be in a better situation to switch to coal, living right in NEPA. There is a wealth of information here as well.

My opinion is to add a coal boiler alongside the oil unit, if you have the room and the $$$. Steam heat is the best in my opinion, you want to keep that.

If cash is a problem, a coal stove will lower your heating costs considerably.

Either way, it's a win-win situation.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: jnn On: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:42 am

Thanks for the quick response. Any ideas on how much a new boiler costs? Also a reputable dealer ? I know steam is a warm heat, I'm just concerned about cost of new boiler...thanks
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Re: switching from oil

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:53 am

I also welcome you jnn. A good coal stove will be in the $1500.00 price range assuming you have a chimney to connect too. A furnace/boiler will be quite a bit more. Please give us more details about your home such as size, layout,chimneys, age, etc.
I heat my 2200 SF split entry ranch with just a coal stove in my basement family room, but your house will dictate what you would need.
Devil505
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: Lumberjack On: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:09 am

3000 for a good new furnace plus!
about 1000 for a complete professional installation
and 650 for a power vent

so thats 5000 for the furnace and about a grand for the fuel per year depending on supplier
Payback time - about two years if your burning oil
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Re: switching from oil

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:28 pm

Hello jnn, contact keystoker http://www.keystoker.com and see if the Kaa2 or the Ka6 will make enough steam for your house..

AHS and the Axeman Anderson boilers can be used for steam as well as an EFM.

Most boilers can be set up to make steam.

Greg L

http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com

http://www.axemananderson.com
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: Yanche On: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:36 pm

URL correction for Alternate Heating Systems:
http://www.alternateheatingsystems.com/
Yanche
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Alternate Heating Systems S-130
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: thoule On: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:52 am

I got a price of about $4700 for a ka6, plus about $3500 for delivery/installation from Hocon Gas in Torrington, CT. The install price came from two different installers; I have only one dealer in the area that I can find out about. Do these numbers sound fair?

My wife and I are still discussion if we should run in series, or just replace the oil.
Todd
thoule
 
Stove/Furnace Make: nothing...
Stove/Furnace Model: How Sad!

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: sterling40man On: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:47 am

jnn,

I ordered a keystoker k-6 a week ago. I should get it in about 6-8 weeks. I got a price of $4850. It will be another $2k for the install to plumb it in series with my oil boiler. Do like gregg says and give them a call to find a loal dealer. You won't regret it. Cash price for heating oil in northern Maine is $4.59!! Gas prices went up $.30 this morning. It's now at $4.39!! This is getting out of hand. :mad3:

Bob
sterling40man
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker K6
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KA-6

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: jnn On: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:29 pm

Thanks for all the help. The house is a half double, similar to a townhouse. 2200 sq ft. 3 floors. The rooms are fair sized with 9 ft ceilings. Hope this info helps determine what I need. I did contact one dealer and he quoted me $4500 for the boiler, I know installation is additonal, but i'm unsure if the same chimney I use now can be reused. i considered getting a coal stove to begin with, and placing it on the first floor...still unsure and confused, definitely need to switch from oil...
jnn
 

Re: switching from oil

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:52 pm

jnn wrote:i considered getting a coal stove to begin with, and placing it on the first floor...still unsure and confused, definitely need to switch from oil...


If you home's floor plan is pretty open (so that the heat from a first floor coal stove can be routed to warm everywhere) then you may be able to get away with just a good coal stove for less than $1500.00. I am heating 2 floors very uniformly with just a hand fired Harman TLC-2000 burning about two tons of nut coal per year. Three floors may be kinda tricky but as long as hot air keeps rising, you may be able to do it.
Devil505
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

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