Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:45 pm

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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:15 am

I'm surprised this topic didn't get any responses from members that like to "discuss" politics.
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: billw On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:35 am

I'm totally skeptical of all politicians but I do like what he did already. No money for his campaign or the DNC from lobbyists or PACS. When he ran in PA he refused to give the thugs, I mean ward captains, street money. Maybe he does have a different approach to politics. I guess we'll see.

I wish just once these politicians would say exactly how they are going to pay for these programs. Nothing detailed but how does he give teachers 100,000 a year salary, provide medical insurance for everyone that needs it and start to pay down the debt? Teachers salaries normally come from the school districts. My property taxes just doubled. Is he going to push that salary hike onto the homeowners, raise income taxes, or fund it some other way? Promises are easy to make. What I want to know is how do we cover the costs.
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:53 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:I'm surprised this topic didn't get any responses from members that like to "discuss" politics.


Too long an article! (I'm too busy dusting off my Blaschak bags!)
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:31 am

billw wrote:I wish just once these politicians would say exactly how they are going to pay for these programs.
My property taxes just doubled.


I think you just answered your own question.
The burden of paying for all Obama's "changes" will ultimately fall on the shoulders of the taxpayers.
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:10 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:The burden of paying for all Obama's "changes" will ultimately fall on the shoulders of the taxpayers.


It will still be a mere fraction of the cost of paying for the Bush family war in Iraq John! :D
( & at least we will benefit from most of his programs...like health care, veteran's benefits, infrastructure repair...etc)
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:23 am

billw wrote:My property taxes just doubled.


In large part because the federal government has drastically cut aid to the states for education in order to pay for the Iraq occupation which benefits noone except Exxon-Mobil.
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:53 pm

billw wrote:I'm totally skeptical of all politicians but I do like what he did already. No money for his campaign or the DNC from lobbyists or PACS. When he ran in PA he refused to give the thugs, I mean ward captains, street money. Maybe he does have a different approach to politics. I guess we'll see.

I wish just once these politicians would say exactly how they are going to pay for these programs. Nothing detailed but how does he give teachers 100,000 a year salary, provide medical insurance for everyone that needs it and start to pay down the debt? Teachers salaries normally come from the school districts. My property taxes just doubled. Is he going to push that salary hike onto the homeowners, raise income taxes, or fund it some other way? Promises are easy to make. What I want to know is how do we cover the costs.


Here's a list of Obamas top contributors. All policticians atake money from lobbyists or they couldn't compete.
Goldman Sachs $571,330
University of California $437,236
UBS AG $364,806
JPMorgan Chase & Co $362,207
Citigroup Inc $358,054
National Amusements Inc $320,750
Lehman Brothers $318,647
Google Inc $309,514
Harvard University $309,025
Sidley Austin LLP $294,245
Skadden, Arps et al $270,013
Time Warner $262,677
Morgan Stanley $259,876
Jones Day $250,725
Exelon Corp $236,211
University of Chicago $218,857
Wilmerhale LLP $218,680
Latham & Watkins $218,615
Microsoft Corp $209,242
Stanford University $195,262
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:26 pm

coalkirk wrote:Here's a list of Obamas top contributors. All policticians atake money from lobbyists or they couldn't compete.
Goldman Sachs $571,330


Agreed. Those same companies cover their butts by paying off everyone on both sides. Unfortunately, as you say, any politician has to play the game.
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Re: Barack Obama in The Audacity of Hope

PostBy: spc On: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:22 am

Playing the game?

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