KA6 Spring Cleaning

KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: jcw265 On: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:47 pm

HI Everyone :

Sure miss being on here with all of you and let me just thank you all and this forum for getting me thru my first winter nice and warm with my KA6, I have also turned on another family to the wonders of Anthracite Coal !! . My question is now that I have shut down the KA6 what steps should I take for the season, I have vacumed out all the dust I can. I have pulled off hopper so I can paint the inside of it. I am going to let the chimeny sweep take care of my flume pipe since he will be pulling it off anyhow. I know there must be other stuff so I await your reply , Thank you again so much

Love in Christ

Jay Williams AKA KA6 Lover !! LOL
jcw265
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker. KA 6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: gaw On: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:45 am

Clean all fly ash from the stove pipe and chimney sump. Looks like you covered that. I like to use a metal scraper to scrape as much of the inside surfaces as I can get access to remove fly ash buildup. I usually lay on the floor and do this through the ash door. Use appropriate safety measures. The fly ash is a powerful eye irritant as well as not being the best for the lungs. There are two baffles between the burner and stack opening. The easiest way I have found to clean them of is to put a few feet of chain over top of them and work it back and forth, from side to side. After you do this you should have made quite a bit of dust to vacuum up. You may want to have someone hold a vacuum hose by the ash door or in the fire door opening while you are scraping to catch as much dust as you can before it gets airborne in the basement or wherever the boiler is located.

If your main stoker motor has place to oil the bearings give each bearing a drop or two of 3in1 oil or a light weight oil like #10. Don't over do it with the oil, a drop or two per bearing is enough. You can oil the linkage pins of the stoker and the shaft for the pusher block. The secondary fan, the little Fasco blower that runs all the time probably has no provision to oil it. Carefully remove this blower and through the opening now exposed by removing it, assuming your fire is out, a small vacuum hose can be inserted to vacuum any coal and ash fines from below the grates. This is important to do yearly as an accumulation of fines under the grates will cause you trouble in time.

This is pretty much how I clean mine, hope it helps you out.
gaw
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice from Schuylkill County

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: jcw265 On: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:23 am

Ok the newbie in me is still coming out , this fly ash is this the black stuff inside the stoker box, because when I was scraping it off there is like an orange color behind it ( rust ? ) The 2 baffles you speak of what are those ?? How about the grate the coal slides down on ?? do i do anything with that ?? Ok on the oil I think I got that one. I will have to look at the blowers but I know I have 2 I am just not sure which one you are speaking of . Thanks for your reply and sorry for being a newb on the cleaning front !! LOL

Love in Christ

Jay Williams
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker. KA 6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite

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Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:13 pm

Hello Jay,, good to hear from you again.. I assume you stayed warm last winter??

The Baffles that gaw mentions are the vertical steel plates that the hot gasses pass between on the way from the stoker to the exhaust flue pipe. Scrape them clean.. as best as you can.

You mentioned the grates where the coal fire burns.. under these plates is where gaw said to vacuum out the fines. the sand-sized coal that falls through the holes in the grates.. these fines accumulate and can eventualy block the air holes from underneath..

I like to use a solution of baking soda... one box to a 2-gallon bucket of water,, and wash down the inside of the boiler and stoker after you have cleaned it as well as you can.. The baking soda reduces the effects of humidity mixing with the coal ash and coal dust that contains sulphur.. and makes an acid that corrodes steel... the baking soda will slow this down a lot...

I would recommend removing the flue pipes, vacuuming them out.. and wiping the inside down with the baking soda solution, then wadding up newspaper and plugging each end of the flue pipe, this will help reduce humidity induced corrosion.

Leave the boiler closed up, and plug the flue pipe exit with a big wadd of newspaper... all the humidity in a basement will promote corrosion.. close the ashpan doors,, etc.. I'd even leave a stack of newspaper in the ashpan area to 'absorb' humidity.. every bit helps..

Hope this helps... Greg L

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LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: gaw On: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:14 pm

Jay, it's good to hear coal worked out for you, when you disappeared from the forum I was afraid you got frustrated and gave it up. Anyhow,any dust and dirt you can remove from the inside surfaces of the boiler is good no matter what color or what you call it. You may be seeing some rust come through, it doesn't take long but some surface rust is bound to occur when you shut down like this. The motor to remove will be the smaller of the two but either motor can be removed to gain access to the area under the grates. Removing the smaller one is the easiest approach.
gaw
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice from Schuylkill County

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: jcw265 On: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:52 pm

Well it sounds like I have more work to do. I took all dust out but I think I need to scrape alot more then I did. I will also just pull of both motors I think so I can get all the dust out. Then should I scrape the grate on top or spray anything on it ?? I will pull flume and do the news paper deal as well. All of you are so great in helping me with this, I am going to order coal early this year to , can you get a better price I am looking to buy 8 skids this year ,

Love in Christ

Jay Williams
jcw265
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker. KA 6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:40 am

jcw265 wrote: I am going to let the chimeny sweep take care of my flume pipe since he will be pulling it off anyhow.


If you haven't had your chimney inspected by chimney sweep or other qualified professional its certainly a good idea however you don't have to make this a yearly ritual. If you want to be on the safe side maybe every few years but I guess that depends on the condition and age of your chimney. Just for reference our chimney was installed 25 years ago when the furnace went in, it hasn't been swept or inspected professionally since then. We do "inspect" it every year by using a mirror to make sure there is no obstructions but that's about it. If by any chance we get up on the roof we'll check it from there but thats really rare. I should also note our chimney is on the outside of house and not directly inside the house.

You will have to remove the flue pipe once a year and clean the fly ash out of it and the bottom of your chimney.

FYI you may want to consider running it year round if you have the water coil. You'll use roughly 1 ton for 3 months, depending on the cost of the coal where you live you may very well break even. You will definitely extend the life of the unit. I'm betting many of the units being sold today that are burned year round wlll outlive the use of coal for heating.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: wannabwarm On: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:10 am

Hi Jay, I am converting to coal boiler this summer. I very much appreciate you blazing the way on this forum as I am a newbe with a K6 on order. I am a home handymah/engineer, so I will be installing myself along side my oil boiler.

Can you share your experiences with the K6? Any surprises or things it took awhile to learn? Any info is much appreciated. I have not run a stoker before and am excited about the prospect.

Steve, K 0f C Knight and Christan Solder.
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Stove/Furnace Make: New Yorker Coal Boiler WC90
Stove/Furnace Model: oil (ouch)

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: jcw265 On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:24 am

Well the thing that I had the most issues with was rate of flow and getting temps and pressures set. GAW will be a big help with this , he guided me through mine !! adjustments to rate of flow take usally 12 hours to see the results , but temp and pressure can be seen with in 60 minutes , at least in my case. Once GAW walked me through that part I never touched it from the point , just enjoyed the heat , the dancing blue ladies , and added coal when needed !! KA6 are GREATTTT !! but thats just me !! LOLOL anything I can do or help you with please let me know !!

Love in Christ

Jay Williams
jcw265
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker. KA 6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: wannabwarm On: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:54 am

Thanks so much, will keep it in mind when I fire up!!
wannabwarm
 
Stove/Furnace Make: New Yorker Coal Boiler WC90
Stove/Furnace Model: oil (ouch)

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: jcw265 On: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:04 pm

Well I just would like some follow up comments or advice . This weekend I day the big clean or at least it sure seemed to be, I did it this way ,

Clean out boiler with wire brush and removed all loose matter that I could find, get to , or see there is some places a human arm just can not go .

Wiped down the grid and feed with 3 in 1 oil and made sure it was free from all matter and debris

Pulled big fan out so I could remove all matter and dust from inside the feed grate

Stuffed in newsapaper at the exhst end , the feed end , and inside the boiler to prevent moisture

Removed exhst flume and cleaned it out real good / repainted coal hopper ( inside only )

cleaned out around and on the boiler , came out I think worse then a coal miner ( maybe not )

Is there anything else I need to do until winter ?? Oh yeah I dropped some oil on the feeder arm too

Please let me know what you all think about this

Love in Christ

Jay Williams
jcw265
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker. KA 6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:39 pm

Hello Jay, have you been burning in the boiler up untill now?? If not, when did you last burn in the unit?? I'm currious how much surface rust or flakey rust you found on the inside of the unit.
You mentioned cleaning the top of the grate, and under the grate, did you take a wire or small drill and poke through all the holes?? They often get clogged with ash or fines, all the fines you found under the grate fell through the holes.. So I'd recommend poking something through each of the holes..

Other than the holes.. I'd just suggest doing the spring cleaning within a week of shutting down the fire, this gives the unit less time to rust from the fly ash and summer humidity.

Next year you may want to look real close at the flue pipes for pinholes and corrosion.. unless they are made of Stainless steel they usually only last two seasons.

Take care,, Greg L
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: KA6 Spring Cleaning

PostBy: jcw265 On: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:28 pm

Well I shut it down in early -mid may and I cleaned it out within a few weeks, then i did the above mentioned things per all the posts month or so later, the inside is for sure an orange color but what seem to come off was black ( kinda like semi hard ash ) no problem getting it off I used a wire brush and or the end of the vacumn hose , I would say if I had to give and amount I have a little 5 gallon shop vac and it was probally 30 % full ,

I did not do the drill bit thing in the holes but I will. I am also thinking about turning my hot water over to the boiler in which case it would burn year round, I am getting prices right now of 2400 lbs ( skid ) for 315.00 delivered to me thinking about 7 or 8 skids , this is out of rural energy products in van wert ohio .

On the flume pipe I did notice a lil bit of rust at one of the corner joints but other then that i saw nothing , I have the hopper and pipe out in the barn where it is not exposed to much dampness.

As always looking forward to all input and advice

Love in Christ

Jay
jcw265
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker. KA 6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite

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