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Post by efo141 » Sat. Jun. 14, 2008 5:18 pm

Has anyone bought coal from this broker? I am thinking of buying 22-25 tons The trucking price is a lot cheaper than any other. the coal price is about the same. I called the coal breakers listed on this forum and most wont sell 20-25 tons I am looking for rice for the boiler I havent bought yet. Harman vf3000 maybe Jan, Keystoker at least 12 weeks. I don't want any thing to big Kaa2 is what I was thinking 1400 sq ft raised ranch well insul. about 700- 800 gals a year with my oil boiler with a coil Any info on coal or coal boilers would be helpful. I have never burned coal.


 
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Post by 1termite » Sat. Jun. 14, 2008 8:34 pm

about 2 years ago bought a truck load of rice. it was small and round. it had small roots mixed in. burned ok

 
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Post by acesover » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 9:40 am

Man you had better get a sample of that coal befor you buy 25 ton.... WHAT are you thinking.
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Post by Richard S. » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 9:42 am

If you're buying in that amount and ask I'm sure they will provide the specs.

 
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Post by efo141 » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 9:43 am

Did you get bagged or bulk? I want bulk, I would hate to have 5 years of heat that wont burn.

 
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Post by efo141 » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 9:49 am

I would love to send a bag to a seasoned coal burner and tell me if it was any good. I have no stoker to try it in yet.

 
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Post by acesover » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 9:54 am

Where is your thinking cap, go get it, you say you are new to coal, OK .... start out slow and go from there. 25 ton is a lot of coal, Don't know if seasoned members would buy that much without knowing sourse, qualty, and what ever.
just my two sence?
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Post by efo141 » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 10:05 am

Single bags of Anthracite available for shipment anywhere in the US at price plus FedEx Ground shipping.



Nut coal dry specs:
Here is the specs. they post on there anthracite


Moisture: 5.49% (as received)
Ash: 9.58%
Sulfur: .59%
BTU/lb: 13,451
BTU/lb: 14,876 (dry, ash-free)
Volatile Matter: 4.36%
Fixed Carbon: 95.17% (dry, ash-free)
Ash Fusion Temp: 2,700 F
Lbs sulfur per million BTU's: 0.44

Coal analysis report by GeoChemical Testing Somerset, PA.

 
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Post by Freddy » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 10:21 am

I'm new to this coal thing but this is what I've learend by phone calls and reading.
Penn Keystone is a broker. That means they do not mine coal, they buy it and resell it. They agree to sell you coal at $X a ton. The cheaper they can buy it, the more profit they make. You do not actually know where it comes from. It might come from one place this week and another next week.
From what I've read, you can't tell by looking. You can't even tell by burning a bag, you need to burn it for a week to get a feel for it.
All the experianced coal burners say to never buy unknown coal. I took their advice and am buying a truck load of Superior.

 
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Post by efo141 » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 2:19 pm

I tried Superior 140 they would not sell me more than a few tons, UAE 130 3-5 tons, Summit 140 will sell a full load but the trucking price was 2000+ for 250 miles (one way) Lenig 130, Have not checked the price with ther recomened trucker yet. Penn Keystone Broker 135+ 35 per ton trucking big price diff. on trucking. If anyone knows of good coal at 170 ton delivered Please let me know. Thanks Ed

 
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Post by acesover » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 2:24 pm

Where are you located.

 
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Post by efo141 » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 4:07 pm

Sheffield Ma. 01257

 
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Post by chabbo » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 4:57 pm

I am interested in acesover's response as well, since I live in Western, MA too.

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Post by Richard S. » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 5:07 pm

If you're getting a price of $170 a ton delivered to Massachusetts thats an incredible deal assuming you are not getting a pile of rocks.

 
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Post by TommyDE » Sun. Jun. 15, 2008 6:15 pm

I bought 24 tons last fall from Penn Keystone for $165 ton delivered to western Connecticut. I've burned coal for years obtained from many sources. The coal I received is just OK. Ash content was slightly higher than the best coal I've gotten in past. Most annoying issue is that it tends to form large clinkers unless you shake grates and poke fire often. Lots of roots in coal also, but that wasn't really a problem as they burn too.


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