Harman Elite or Hitzer fireplace insert

Harman Elite or Hitzer fireplace insert

PostBy: jenkie01 On: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:53 pm

I cannot afford oil this year (paid more than 2200 last year) and who know this year???

I decided on a coal inset for my fireplace in the lower level of my larger A Frame. I looked around, but and am able to get --not order-but pick up from stock either a Harman Elite of either of the 2 Hitzer's coal inserts. All are about $2200.00. The only problem is my fireplace is 32" wide and the Harman insert is needs 40". I can make it that wide if I have to, but only if necessary. Is the Harman stove a that much better, where I should go through all that trouble. I need a long burn as I often work 16 hour shifts and have the old oil burner to use if I have to---have a on demand LP hot water heater so that is a non issue. Will the Hitzer with the hopper work better than the other 2???

What I am asking from you guys, who are in the know---If it were your money what would you do? I live in the country -in northeast Pa--and a lot of people here are going back to coal. I only remember hating to take the ashes out as a kid and here I am back where I started!! Thank in advance for your help. When I did burn wood for heat and hot water I used about 6 cords a year and had to feed the fire at least 3 times a day.

Thanks in advance for you input. Patrick
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Stove/Furnace Make: harman coal fireplace insert
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Re: Harman Elite or Hitzer fireplace insert

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:36 pm

Just a suggestion but a coal stove (rather than an insert) will be cheaper, easier to install in front of your fireplace & will give your more heat. Some of them a pretty decent looking too , if that's a concern.
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Re: Harman Elite or Hitzer fireplace insert

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:22 pm

The Hitzer and Harman inserts are both high quality products. I would not say one was better than the other. Both will have similar long burns that will allow you to go 16 hours between tending. The hopper may get you some extra burn time.
We decided upon the Hitzer for my parents use due to its looks and the top hopper feed. The extra fancy work on the Harman insert was a negative for us. The top loading hopper was a positive. The blowers on both overcome the fact they are enclosed in a masonry box of the former fireplace. The $2200 price seems high as we were quoted under $1800 including delivery to MA for a 503 insert.
So the short answer; if it must be an insert, a hopper Hitzer would be my choice for looks, quality and burn time.
Now, a better situation would be a larger free standing Hitzer or Harman stove if that was possible as Devil5052 stated, however I suspect that the nature of the A-frame layout precludes a freestanding stove.
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Re: Harman Elite or Hitzer fireplace insert

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:37 pm

Well I have to vote for the Harman insert, as you can tell. I used U.A.E and Superior coal that Coal Berner had told me to use and it was great. Long burn time and nice even heat. The 40 inches that you speak of do you mean the outside skirt surround to the stove, if thats the case all you need to do is go to a metal fab shop and have them shear it down for you the size you need,( make sure you shear the outside, not the side next to the stove, so you can still use the holes to bolt the skirt to the stove). It's a great stove and easy to use and install. which ever one you buy people here are going to help you anyway they can to make sure you do it safely. P.S. don't forget to get at least 3 c.o. detectors.
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Re: Harman Elite or Hitzer fireplace insert

PostBy: jenkie01 On: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:57 am

I truely thank you for your input. And I think that for both the amt of room it takes up,(floorspace) and the astetics (the wall where the 3 flues and the fireplace is all fieldstome floor to ceiling and 15' wide) I would be beter of with an insert. I could be wrong, but that is the way I see it. Maybe I can be convinced otherwise, but floor space is limited. I will look at the harman saturday and see if it is too fancy and can be cut down. Thanks again!
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