Kimmel's Coal?

Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:48 pm

Has anyone burned Kimmel's rice coal? Is it as good as Blaschak rice? I can get it for $15 cheaper per ton than Blaschak. :D

Bob
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: gaw On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:26 pm

I saw some of Kimmel's coal that was real crap. The guy was throwing it away because it would not burn. It was rice, didn't even look right. Kimmel was running a lot of bank coal through, aka reclaimed coal from the old culm banks. I know he has big plans to do some strip mining and also wants to deep mine with an automatic mining machine like Harmony is doing. I have not heard anything lately as to where he is getting his coal from as of now. I would not want to take a chance on his coal unless I knew for a fact that he was selling mined coal, not reclaimed stuff.
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:57 pm

Gaw,

Thanks. I just e-mailed the company and asked if it's mined. I will also call them tomorrow. I hope it's the same number that they have on their website. It hasn't been updated since '03.
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: gaw On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:05 pm

From the phone book "KIMMEL'S COAL & PACKAGING INC, Machamer Ave Wcnsc 17097.......717 453-7151"
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:24 pm

That's the number they have on the website. Thanks Gaw. I'll let you know what they say.

P.S. I'll be looking for some advise when I install my KA-6 in late fall. ;) :D

Bob
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:38 pm

If the price difference is only $15.00/ton....I'd say stick with Blaschak
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:00 pm

Devil,

That's the first thing that popped into my head after I read the reply from Gaw. :shock: I think I'll stick with Blaschak, but it won't hurt to ask Kimmel anyway. I'm very curious and I'm sure other forum members would like to know. ;) :D
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: sterling40man On: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:16 pm

Called Kimmel's. They said that all of their coal is mined and not reclaimed. So there you have it. I think I'll buy a few bags just to try it out.

Bob
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:48 pm

That's the safe way,, and even then when or if you buy a larger quantity, they may not get the coal that went into your bags from the same place they load the truck, or the large load of bags...

After suffering through many different poor quality coals,, haveing fires go out,, clinkers clog grates, low heat output,, and seeing more black in the ashes that ashes... I've convinced myself that saving a few $$ on 'Mystery Coal' is not worth it... I'm buying the best I can find...

When I started, I had Bituminous available for $15/ton,, yes that's right $15 per ton... and it was only 20 miles away,, I could have bought 100 tons... but it was so bad burning, that it was a full time job to keep the boiler going... with good anthracite, just load and forget,, empty the ashpan.. that's all..

Just my $.02 worth.. from experience.

Greg L
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:01 pm

sterling_40man wrote:Called Kimmel's. They said that all of their coal is mined and not reclaimed. So there you have it. I think I'll buy a few bags just to try it out.

Bob



To be safer, buy enough to run your stove for about a week on it. (some marginal/inferior coal takes a few days to really foul up your stove) I bought 2 bags of "mystery coal" last winter & it burned fine. I then had a ton delivered & was sorry all winter! (jammed my shaker grates after a few days)

Horror story here:
That's It- Stick With Blaschak!
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:47 pm

I have been through one full Winter with coal, and 95 per cent of it was Kimmel's nut. I burned a dozen or so bags of Blaschak and a few bags of "mystery" that burned a lot like Blaschak. Both Blaschak and mystery had significantly more ash than Kimmel, but the Kimmel ash was coarser and darker. Don't ask me the significance of that; I don't know.

The only complaint I have had with Kimmel is inconsistent size and lots of little crumbles mixed in. But in general it burned just as well as the others. Kimmel was significantly lower in price than Blaschak, maybe $40 to $50 per ton, at least from one supplier in my city. Another supplier seemed intent on matching the Blaschak price.
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:54 pm

rberq wrote:but the Kimmel ash was coarser and darker. Don't ask me the significance of that; I don't know.


Could be very significant depending on the stove you're burning it in. (Sounds allot like the Reading Coal that kept jamming my TLC-2000 when I shook it down) The jams made burning the crap a real nightmare!
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: coal berner On: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:30 pm

This is one of Kimmel's main supplier for coal Kimmel's does have there own deep mine Running now but the are having alot of problems They are trying to mine with a Continuous miner like they use for the soft coal it is not working so there Production in slow they still have to buy from other's That is why the consistent in sizing and Qaulity is not there you can look on the link's below and see Meadowbrook coal co. is a Refuse co. When the Qaulity goes up with Kimmel's I will Posted on this forum until then I would look for somebody else to get coal from


http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table06_anthracite_refuse.htm
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http://www.pabulletin.com/secure/data/v ... 2118e.html

http://www.kimmelcoal.com/


http://www.appaltree.net/aba/coal.htm
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Re: Kimmel's Coal?

PostBy: Wolverine On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:55 am

Last year was my first attempt at coal burning I used 4 T Reading and wanted to see if another local supplier(who happened to carry Kimmels) would be the same, They met the price of my reading coal (rice Stoker Stove) so I gave it a shot. I first noticed That it appeared to be of a finer screen. so this lead to changing the adjustment to the stoker. I t appeared to burn fine, after a short while I noticed a creaking sound when the stoker would cycle. Upon investigation I found small pieces of shale or a grayish stone in the stoker air box so I cleaned it out,and began checking the hopper and following bags out to find this rock was easily found in almost any hand ful of coal that I checked. Coal being sold by weight, and rock not having much heat value , I went back to the Reading supplier and have been satisfied since. In Maine I haven't found too many sources for coal.
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