K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: Sting On: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:42 pm

I'm sorry Greg - I gotta do this today:

Joe - after all you have been given - if you don't already have a clear understanding of Series and Parallel

For you own safety - the health of your family and neighbors - PLEASE - hire a plumber to do your install !

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Sting
 
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Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: RickLee On: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:47 pm

Sorry folks but I can't seem to figure out how to start a new topic. So i'll semi-hijack this one and ask for forgiveness. How much floor space is needed for a KA-6 coal boiler? I had a dealer out to measure and he said no problem...until I saw one in person! Holy crap, I've no clue what or where he measured in my house but no way would it fit. I just want to verify it's size in case he showed me the wrong boiler model. Sorry, just trying deal with the red flag thrown my way. Again I apologize for hijacking this thread.
TIA, RickLee
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Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: gaw On: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:04 pm

It is the "New Topic" button at the top and bottom of the forum pages. Check your PMs I sent you the info. Maybe a moderator will move this and start a new topic heading for you.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
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Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:56 am

Hi Ricklee, follow the directions that member gaw sent you.. just click on the new topic button, don't forget to give the new topic a title...

I'd call Keystoker for the footprint size of the boiler, and then mark on the floor of your choosen location with chalk, and do a 'walk around'.. don't forget that you will be adding coal, and emptying the ashpan daily or every two days in the winter,, weekly in the summer.

Greg L.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: tightwoods On: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:14 pm

Those books are worth their weight in Platinum. Buy them, digest them.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harmon
Stove/Furnace Model: VF3000

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: JOE.G On: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:34 am

Sting I see how the hooks goes I was just wondering about teh controls, I am going to have a plumb do some of it, but I also like to know for my own knowledge, how are you supose to learn if you don't ask ?
JOE.G
 

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: Sting On: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:19 pm

ignore me

I am insignificant in your goal ;)

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You want a lucid drawing- Check out this plan - correctly laid out primary/secondary loads and close spaced tees for thermal break and boiler protection
Add and subtract loads or appliances as you need :?

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Learning comes (sometimes) with reading!
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Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: JOE.G On: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:15 pm

Sting it is not that I am ignoreing you, I appreicate anyinput you can give, I like to know what is going and how things work and why, I learn by reading and trying things,

I was wondering also if I add a 2nd circulator how do I know what size HP/GPM to get, I have a taco 1/16 th HP on my system know should I get a adjustable one and use that to feed the house and put my current taco between the 2 boilers?

I had a 1/2 or 3/4 HP B&G circulator on my old boiler.
JOE.G
 

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: JOE.G On: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:00 pm

I am haveing a new 8 inch flue masoney chimmney put up this months, the stove calls for a 8 inch flue, but the inside diameater of the clay flue pipe is closer to six but it is called a 8 inch flue pipe does that sound right?
JOE.G
 

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: coal berner On: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:32 am

RickLee wrote:Sorry folks but I can't seem to figure out how to start a new topic. So i'll semi-hijack this one and ask for forgiveness. How much floor space is needed for a KA-6 coal boiler? I had a dealer out to measure and he said no problem...until I saw one in person! Holy crap, I've no clue what or where he measured in my house but no way would it fit. I just want to verify it's size in case he showed me the wrong boiler model. Sorry, just trying deal with the red flag thrown my way. Again I apologize for hijacking this thread.
TIA, RickLee


Here are the sizes for Keystokers
http://www.keystoker.com/coaloilboilers.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:20 am

e.alleg wrote:In most localities you aren't allowed to go into business without a plumbers license but you can certainly install your own boiler.


I'd check on that. My sister lives in Mass and (unless things have changed in the last few years) homeowners are not allowed to even install an electric water heater. As a matter of fact, you cannot buy an electric water heater at a retail store in MA! I would venture a guess they won't allow you to legally install your own boiler either.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:17 pm

A plumber with heating experience should be able to give you good advise.
I prefer a heating guy with plumbing experience to do my work.
Ask the guy doing your work these questions and if he can not give you a clear answer, show him this forum and think about who you have hired.
If he is any good he will be able to answer any questions you have.
You do not necessarily have to understand all the concepts discussed here, just enough knowledge to ask the right questions of the people you hire.
It is great that you are eager to learn new things, just remember it is a never ending process and it takes some work on your part.
The old adage 'Give a man a fish, feed him for a day but teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime' comes to mind.
Here is a good link to chimneys
http://inspectapedia.com/chimneys/aschim01.htm
Google is you friend.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: gambler On: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:19 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:'Give a man a fish, feed him for a day but teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime'


Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will drink beer all day.

sorry, I couldn't help myself. :oops:
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
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Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: FingerLakesStoker On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:40 am

I am following this on the hookup of a KA-6. I ordered a new Direct Vent KA-6 recently. I am planning to put the KA-6 in series with my propane boiler and set the aquastat of the propane boiler about 20-30° lower so it acts as a back up. I ordered a Direct Vent KA-6 on May 23rd and got 8 weeks for a delivery date. They were about 60 KA-6's behind at that point in time. I still have another week to go, but my dealer can not get a firm confirmation date for shipment from Keystoker yet and any new KA-6 orders are being told 4 months for delivery. That looks like the end of October, early November for a delivery. My heat needs to be running by the end of September at best around here.

Mike - aka FingerLakesStoker
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KA-6 Direct Vent

Re: K6 ? new to this . hook up and general coal boiler ?

PostBy: Sting On: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 am

Series boiler installations are simple and inexpensive to accomplish - but running is another story. Just because you set the oil boiler 20 or 30 degrees cooler doesn't mean you have control until the coal boiler fails. Any good call for heat sending cold water from load zones can quickly use up stored coal boiler energy - inducing thermal shock on the coal boiler and forcing the oil boiler to burn as is immediately sees those preset launch temperatures. :sick:
Sting
 
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