Coal Bin VS Bagged

Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:22 pm

Here we go. I'm getting 24 tons of rice delivered and I'm trying to figure out the best place for a bin, material, and how to transport it from the large pile that will be dropped. Idea 1. One side of my pool is 40ft. with brush on the other side of the fence. My plan is to put one fence section at the end of the pool and then create a bin using fencing. So the dimensions of the bin would be 8ft. wide and however long to accomodate 26 tons. I was hoping that someone could advice me with the dimensions needed. I'll be using a bobcat and driving it into the coal bin from the 8ft. opening and ppushing back. Would this work? I don't have enough room to manuever the Bobcat to the side of the bin so I can't drop it over the fence.

Idea #2 The other alternative is to built a rectangular bin in another location and then I could drop the coal over the 6ft. fence into the bin. Any advice is appreciated. In all my designs I would use pressure treated fencing. Thanks in advance.

Idea # Just buy bagged see later post.
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Re: Coal Bin Vs. Bagged

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:53 pm

I'm not so sure that fence will take the weight of the coal. Fence usually has one post every 8 feet, I'd want more support. What are you going to put on the ground for the coal to go on?

Sketch #2 looks like 12 by 14, or 16? It'll need to be twice that size. I built a cement 16' by 18', four 1/2 feet tall and it's just right for 24 ton. I'd not put corners on the entrance. Leave it like a horseshoe. Don't forget the more you move it and run over it, the more fines you create.
If I were to do it again, I'b make it 14' by 20'. Then it would fill as the truck dumped and not need to be touched.
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Re: Coal Bin Vs Bagged

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:32 pm

Yeah. I'm looking at 140 a ton and 38 a ton for trucking. That brings me to - 3916.00 to the door and another 400 for a coal bin and the hassle of building it. So I'm at 4316.00. For bagged I'm looking at 190 a ton plus 30.00 a ton trucking for a total of 4840.00. For 500.00 more I don't have to be bothered with building a coal bin and I can sling the bags over my shoulder and into the house. Both types of coal will require a Bobcat to move the coal around. I use about 3 tons a year and have about 2 tons now so I would be good for 8 years. My only concern is that the bags don't fall apart. I was told that if they are under a tarp and in the shade as they will be that they will last more than 8 years.
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:36 pm

That's Reading coal. :| Scott
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:38 pm

It could be....I don't know but I was told that penn keystone has deep mined coal with very good specs.
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:42 pm

Where in N.Y. are you? $190 a ton baged is starting to sound good :) Scott
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:58 pm

I'm on Long Island.
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: Paulie On: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:37 am

I went with the Penn Keystone bagged coal. 22.5 tons, 5200 delivered here in MA. Was going to go bulk and save
1000., but the wife said nooooo. New furnace and stove, keep it simple. Penn Keystone had the break down of what is
what. They sell to the state of Penn, so they have there act together on quality. Their trucking was the cheapest. Best
deal is direct from the mine, but trucking was a huge variable. Got prices from 49 a ton to 75 a ton bulk.
Bagged is more, but easier to store. Heads up on the pallet rotting out if in ground contact for a period of time. Good Luck!
My load will be waiting for me in the AM. Oil is crazy.... :sick:
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: traderfjp On: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:12 am

Let me know how u make out? I guess you have a forklift of bobcat with forks?
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Re: Coal Bin VS Bagged

PostBy: scottandcathy On: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:56 pm

Where on Long Island are you. I am in Selden. Where do you get your coal from? Thanks I am looking for rice coal.
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