John McCain’s VP Pick?

Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:31 am

Blackdiamonddoug wrote:I think that she will do a fine job vise president and as president in 2010 when Mcain retires.

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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:36 am

I heard a quote from her yesterday. She was talking to one of McCains aids about the attacks on her daughter by the media and she said, "Do you know what the difference is between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick." ;)
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: BugsyR On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:36 am

ashburnham55 wrote:"a community organizer" , now that's funny !


Still cracks me up just thinking about it. A true tested community organizer.

The best the Democrats can come up with is "she's inexperienced" :lol: :lol: :lol:

The comment I liked the most is where she points out that only ONE man in this year's Presidential campaign ever fought for this country..."and that man IS John S. McCain!!"

The more and more I think about it...there is only ONE man running for President..."and that man IS John S. McCain!!"

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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:49 am

BugsyR wrote:The more and more I think about it...there is only ONE man running for President..."and that man IS John S. McCain!!"


Let me change your above statement if you don't mind Mike..........."The more I think about it...there is only ONE man running for President or Vice President..."and that man IS Sarah Palin!!

Great appeal to the Republican base, but with the strident/shrill nature of her speech last night, they just lost all the female voters she was picked to win over, & most of the independents. (& not one specific word/idea about little problems like the economy, energy, or how a McCain/Palin administration would actually fix any of the mess this country finds itself in)
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: gambler On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:31 am

Devil505 wrote: (& not one specific word/idea about little problems like the economy, energy, or how a McCain/Palin administration would actually fix any of the mess this country finds itself in)


I did not listen to the entire speech but I did not hear of any fixes either. Maybe that will come shortly.
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:58 am

Let me ask a serious question here & please give your response some thought before you just jump in & start typing:

I think we can all pretty much agree that Sarah Palin's surprise selection to be John McCain's running mate was made, in large part, to attract women in general & specifically some of Hillary Clinton's 18 million supporters to the Republican ticket this year.
If that was a major factor, do you feel that Sarah Palin's speech last night will be effective in winning over these women, many of whom have strong Democratic leanings?
Same question regarding independents?
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:08 am

gambler wrote:
Devil505 wrote: (& not one specific word/idea about little problems like the economy, energy, or how a McCain/Palin administration would actually fix any of the mess this country finds itself in)


Does Obama give specifics on these subjects? If he does he has only recently started doing so. All that I have ever heard him say was "we need a change" but never tells any details.


I'm not trying to be a wise guy here Rick but the issue of "staying on topic" has been pretty firmly enforced lately &, since this topic is about "John McCain's VP Pick", I am not sure how much leeway we have to wander off that subject??
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: gambler On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:21 am

'm not trying to be a wise guy here Rick but the issue of "staying on topic" has been pretty firmly enforced lately &, since this topic is about "John McCain's VP Pick", I am not sure how much leeway we have to wander off that subject??

Yes I would agree. My bad!
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:44 am

Devil505 wrote:Let me ask a serious question here & please give your response some thought before you just jump in & start typing:

I think we can all pretty much agree that Sarah Palin's surprise selection to be John McCain's running mate was made, in large part, to attract women in general & specifically some of Hillary Clinton's 18 million supporters to the Republican ticket this year.
If that was a major factor, do you feel that Sarah Palin's speech last night will be effective in winning over these women, many of whom have strong Democratic leanings?
Same question regarding independents?

I don't think wooing Hillary supporters was the main reason behind Sarah Palins selection. It probably wasn't even in the top several reasons she was selected. It's pretty well expected that women who supported Hillary will fall in line behind Obama. There may be some who will not vote or vote for McCain, but not a significant number.
I just watched her speech on you tube. Wow! Obvioulsy the main reason is she is smart, very poised and can handle herself quite well. She has a track record of progressive responsibility and accomplisment. Something Obama can't claim. She's not afraid to stir things up and take on a fight. She cleaned house in Alaska including in her own party. That made her very attractive to McCain. I really like her and the more I hear liberals and the media try to marginailize her, the more fear I see in their hearts. If I were Joe Biden, I'd be sharpening my debating skills.
As far as her selection being a surprise, she's been on the short list for some time and I heard Bill Crystal say almost a year ago that she would be a great choice for VP. So it wasn't a total surprise. She's a "maverick."
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: BugsyR On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:50 am

Devil505 wrote: Let me change your above statement if you don't mind Mike..........."The more I think about it...there is only ONE man running for President or Vice President..."and that man IS Sarah Palin!!

...(& not one specific word/idea about little problems like the economy, energy, or how a McCain/Palin administration would actually fix any of the mess this country finds itself in)


No problem changing my statement...it's true, She has bigger cajones than Obama and Biden so you're actually right by changing it.
wrong about her speech if one is to take your post literally..."not one specific word/idea about little problems....blah blah blah"


http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2008/09/text_of_palins_acceptance_spee.html
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But the fact that drilling won't solve every problem is no excuse to do nothing at all.

Starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we're going to lay more pipelines ... build more new-clear plants ... create jobs with clean coal ... and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative sources.

We need American energy resources, brought to you by American ingenuity, and produced by American workers. I've noticed a pattern with our opponent.

Maybe you have, too
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We've all heard his dramatic speeches before devoted followers.

And there is much to like and admire about our opponent.

But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform -- not even in the state Senate.


Personally, I see her speech as an acceptance speech. I didn't need to hear her fixes to the countries problems. It was great to hear her side of her resume instead of the Democrat saying how inexperienced she is. I still find it funny that people are drooling over Obama yet his resume isn't all that impressive...especially when it comes to politics. Social worker?...yup, I'd hire him in a heart beat ...CinC? My vote will go to someone with leadership abilities. My opinion and first impression, Palin would be able to answer that call at 3am ...I believe Obama will have difficulty deciding if he is even "present" to answer the phone.
Hell..if it's an expensive phone she might even sell it on Ebay and buy a cheaper one and give the profit back to the people :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:01 am

Well...Fair enough. I know it will be shocking to you all to find out that I think Palin's speech last night will ultimately cost the Republicans votes in November. I find it difficult to swallow such a strongly worded attack from a virtual unknown newcomer to the national scene & feel she would have been better advised to try to make herself more attractive & "human" to her target audience of women & independents. (this of course may be why I am sitting in my basement & not advising any candidate!) I will be interested in seeing what the post speech polls show , but the real test will have to wait until 11/4.
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: BugsyR On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:40 am

Devil505 wrote:...I think we can all pretty much agree that Sarah Palin's surprise selection to be John McCain's running mate was made, in large part, to attract women in general & specifically some of Hillary Clinton's 18 million supporters to the Republican ticket this year.
If that was a major factor, do you feel that Sarah Palin's speech last night will be effective in winning over these women, many of whom have strong Democratic leanings?
Same question regarding independents?


Seriously…my opinion, “in large part”…no.
In some part?…yes. Definitely.

Those with strong Democratic leanings….No…those Lefties around my area were upset because they saw her daughter (before last night) holding the youngest child with down syndrome and they were more concerned with the fact that the daughter is pregnant. The full-time working Democratic moms want to know how she is going to be able to raise those children! My wife asked them why they are working and why their kids are being raised in day care centers? Go figure...they couldn't answer her question.
Over all, they didn’t know anything political about Palin but were concerned about those items…(educated voters :lol: :lol: )
Palin is NOT Hillbillary…she is NOT a Democrat...she won’t get their vote because they think that Obama is a real good speaker :lol: …oh yeah and he says that he is going to CHANGE things…well at least they HOPE he changes things. So, will far Left women vote for McCain because of Palin…some, but I don’t think it will be a great amount. (she won't win over the lesbians...that's for sure... :lol: )

Independents?…she solidified my vote for McCain even more. The wife is voting Barr, McCain, Barr, McCain, etc etc…she flipped to McCain last night…very impressed with how Palin presented herself and her family at the convention. She’ll continue to decide until election day…she stopped looking at Obama many months ago.

Palin has a special needs kid which I believe she will push for some special needs social programs (although this does not affect me, I fully support it...if they tax my retirement pay I would love to know that it is going to help kids). She has a son going to Iraq, I believe she will push for better care (not just health care) of service members and vets. Only time will tell and I can still change my mind before November comes around.

I can still change my mind.....hmmm....GOD Bless America!!! What a great country to live in!
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:48 am

The speach last night cost sombody the election thats for sure.
The far left that who.
A hillery replacement I think not
A conservative republican i think soooo!
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: BugsyR On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:56 am

Devil505 wrote:Well...Fair enough. I know it will be shocking to you all to find out that I think Palin's speech last night will ultimately cost the Republicans votes in November. I find it difficult to swallow such a strongly worded attack from a virtual unknown newcomer to the national scene & feel she would have been better advised to try to make herself more attractive & "human" to her target audience of women & independents. (this of course may be why I am sitting in my basement & not advising any candidate!) I will be interested in seeing what the post speech polls show , but the real test will have to wait until 11/4.


I'm not shocked. I believe you are correct in your opinion. I believe McCain lost some votes as soon as he chose Palin. There are way too many people in this country that cannot live with themselves if they vote for a black man or a woman.
Personally, I'm very glad she didn't come out and say..."Who am I and what am I doing here?" :lol: :lol:
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Re: John McCain’s VP Pick?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:09 pm

BugsyR wrote:Personally, I'm very glad she didn't come out and say..."Who am I and what am I doing here?" :lol: :lol:


Yes....That didn't work out so well for Adm. Stockwell did it! :lol:
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