Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: lavarock64 On: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:13 pm

I've jumped deep into this form and now I'm really confused! I put a deposit on a Harman direct vent 500, have I made the wrong choice for my application? Would a boiler be better?

Let me back up, lay out our current house heating situation and let you decide which is a best fit (I only want to do this once)

- 1900's 1,700 square foot two story house (insulated well with new windows)
- Hotwater baseboard Heat, newer oil fired boiler (oversized for the house) - standard concrete block chimney
- New indirect hot water heater
- No outside access/ egress to the house
- House does not have a great place for a second chimney, hence the direct vent idea.
- Basement does have spots for me to build a coal bin.
- My wife is not crazy about the idea of coal (mess), but is a believer due to the $ advantage

I live in central NY and have plenty of coal distributors / stove distributers. I grew up with a Harman Mark and liked it other then the daily operation. I like the idea of dealing with the coal a few times a week vs. every day. Money wise, we are around the $4,500 budget.

Please Help, What is your advice?

Chris
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:50 pm

I don't know know if you'll get into a boiler for that budget, but it sure sounds like boiler would be a better idea. Power vent the [oil] boiler & put the coal into the chimney.
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:58 pm

Boiler is better choice IMO, you're budget is almost there for it considering you already have the baseboard in.

Having said that the stove you're getting will supply most of the heat you'll need for a house that size assuming you can circulate it good enough.

As mentioned by Freddy if you went boiler you could direct vent the oil or even get rid of it entirely. I'd keep it though as backup or for times when you can't maintain the coal. e.g you go on vacation in January.

Having said that getting a boiler even now is going to be a while before you get one, if you're going to go that route you better make a decision now.
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:23 pm

Get a good used boiler. You should be able to find one and get it installed before winter and within your budget. If you only want to do it once, you may as well make it as comfortable as possible. That is what boilers do. :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: lavarock64 On: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:55 am

Thanks for the advice!

I'll look into the coal boiler in greater detail. Is the Harmon VF-3000 a good choice?
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:04 am

Yes, a VF 3000 would be a good choice for your home,, I'd look into a Keystoker Kaa2 boiler as well,, and look through http://www.craigslist.com http://papershop.com/ and your local papers for a used boiler..

Greg L
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: syncmaster On: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:04 pm

lavarock64 wrote:- No outside access/ egress to the house

Chris


Are you saying no outside access to basement?

then if you got a coal boiler you will have to carry ashes up through the house.

That won't be fun.... plus you have to think about how you will get this 900lb unit through the house and down the basement stairs.
Last edited by syncmaster on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: harmanVF3000 Coal/oil option
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Re: Want to make the coal switch, need advice on the best fit

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:58 pm

With no outside access to the basement I would think that the direct vent harman stove would be a better choice than a boiler. And the harman would be up to the task of heating 1700 sqft.
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