Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: Lumberman On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:23 am

I am currently considering buying a Keystoker KA-6, which burns oil or coal. I was wondering if you folks could help me with a few of questions.
1) Does it make sense to incur the expense of this full boiler system or just buy a stand alone coal stove to supliment my oil furnace? If I bought a stand alone stove, what is the best way to get the heat to all the rooms in the house?
2) For property re-sale have you found that having a coal boiler increases or decreases the value of the house?
3) When storing loose coal does it need to be covered? Or will rained on coal burn just as well?
4) Finally, where do you see the price of coal heading in the future?

Any feedback on these concerns would be greatly appreciated.
Lumberman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Ka-6 considering

Re: Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:06 am

Hello Lumberman,n welcome to the forum,
Please take several hours and read the many threads and topics on the forum that will answer your questions..

I'll try to write a quick answer:
First,, I dont think a customer who orders a Keystoker Ka6 today will get the boiler until sometime in February..
The cost of the oil burner option is not that much,, But most people who have an existing, functional, and reliable oil boiler keep it in place and hook up a coal boiler in series or parallel to the oil boiler,, this way you still have an oil backup for times when you are away from home for extended periods
There is an entire thread on the subject of property values.. it really depends on the area, and the mindset of a potenial house buyer.
Loose coal only needs to be covered so that it doesn't freeze into one chunk in the winter,, there are several threads on coal bins
Coal prices are going up some, but only in small percentages,, not 100% in one year like oil

Hope this helps.. Greg L
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: Lumberman On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:54 pm

Greg,
Thanks for the reply. I will spend some time reading the info on this site. The time I have spent so far has been impressively enlightening.
The option of leaving your existing oil furnace in place does make more sense. Would each unit have its own thermostat?
It seems that another advantage to that would be that if I do move I can take my coal boiler with me.
Thanks again,
Brad
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Ka-6 considering

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Re: Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: Lumberman On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:01 pm

The Keystoker dealer in Connecticut says the boiler would be in sometime in December.
Do you know a similar unit that may be availible sooner?
Lumberman
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Ka-6 considering

Re: Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:12 pm

Lumberman wrote:1) Does it make sense to incur the expense of this full boiler system or just buy a stand alone coal stove to supliment my oil furnace?


Guess it depends on your budget, a boiler is ideal. The standalone units work very well too and will supply most of the heat you needd assuming you get a large enough one for your house and can circualate the heat around. There's a couple of threads discussing this.

3) When storing loose coal does it need to be covered? Or will rained on coal burn just as well?


Coal will burn soaking wet, the only real issue that has been raised with wet coal is the corrosive effects on on things like the hopper and other metal parts.

4) Finally, where do you see the price of coal heading in the future?


According to my records and adjusted for inflation its a few bucks cheaper now than it was in the mid 80's. That's going to change but as already mentioned by Greg you won't see increases of 100%. The price of coal has always been fairly stable, this coming winter will be the real test.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: vtec350 On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:15 pm

Most dealers are telling people Jan./Feb.'09, If you can get one in December,I would go down there now and put a deposit on it ASAP....GO QUICKLY :lol:
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KA-6

Re: Considering buying a Keystoker boiler

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:28 pm

HI Brad, you may have read about this already, but when a coal boiler is put in along side an existing boiler, all the thermostats, plumbing and most controls stay in use..

Read as much as you can about hooking up a boiler, then if you haven't seen an answer to a question post it here... But I believe most if not all questons are answered in the many boiler instalation threads..

One of the big problems is that every boiler instalation is different,, unlike a Ford Mustang site, where you just name the year and options, and someone can point you at exactly what to do, with houses and heating systems each is somewhat different.. so nobody can point at one fitting and say change this part to that part, hook it up this way etc etc..

So read as much as you can and take some photos of your setup,, go to as many manufacturer's sites as you can, for measurments etc..

As mentioned above,, if you have a retailer with Boilers coming in in December,, hustle on down there and give him a deposit,, otherwise you may be looking at February before you see a boiler..

Greg L
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
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