Devil5052 wrote: http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
I point this out, not to denigrate our country (as some will undoubtedly accuse me of doing) but because I love my country & simply feel that we need to rethink our priorities when it comes to what we spend our tax dollars on.
I've been to 20 of the 36 higher ranked countries. If I had a choice on where to live out of the top 36 countries taking health care and everything else into consideration....I still choose USA...and the USA's supposed broken health care. (There is one that I have not been to that interests me but I don't believe everything I am told or read so I would have to visit first)
I don't understand all the comments about the efficiency of the "socialized" medicine of the military. Are those comments made directly about the active duty members or does it pertain to those members AND their families?
The thing I didn't like about military medical while actively serving was I never had one doctor. Every time I went to medical it was someone different unless it was a follow-up (I am not including Corpsmen into this statement). Example....Had my appendix rupture out at sea...(long strange story...I was fortunate that my immune system attacked it)...I didn't see an actual doctor until 10 days later and then they did a good thing by waiting another 6 weeks before operating...That is one case where I saw one individual doctor several times (5 or 6 times) BUT the surgeon I met for 5 minutes max and never saw him again (he didn't even come to recovery to see how I was doing). During the 6 week wait, I actually had to give a doctor a piece of my mind because he didn't believe what I was telling him, he didn't look at my record.
For only 2 years out of 14, my wife and children were in what was called family practice...during those 2 years they had Dr. S. as their sole family practitioner. That was the best medical care they ever had. Those days are long gone. (Family Practice we had to sign up for and there was a wait to get in and you never know when/if your family Doctor transfers)
For active duty members it is not too bad but it is the military and it is not perfect. And if anyone ever tells you that rank doesn't have its privileges when it comes to medical care in the military...tell them to get in line to kiss BugsyR's ass.
By the way, when your dependents call for appointments, the person taking their info knows the rank of the active duty member (not that I believe in most conspiracies but sometimes things would be said that would make me scratch my head).
My father-in-law is retired from Mack Trucks, I'd take his health care over my military retiree health care any day. Hell, at one time my In-Laws thought I got paid "over time" while I was at sea. They thought this because they just didn't know anything about the military. Being that they didn't know anything about the military
, they were very shocked when we compared notes about Mack Trucks vs. Military retiree health care. They thought my family's health care was free
If this "socialized" medicine that America supposedly wants is mirrored after military "socialized" medicine...
I vote NO
...unless they do some serious improving because I want better health care....Last year's medical bills for the family were a bit high for me and all I really had done was a couple appointments for the kids (they got sick a couple times that we couldn't kick with OTC stuff), both needed physicals for dumbass reasons, that new vaccination for teenage girls wasn't cheap (as a matter of fact, it wasn't covered at all...can ya believe that?...a vaccination that wasn't covered by a health insurance?), and my Nuclear Stress test wasn't cheap either.
Not to mention the fact that Dental isn't free at all and if anyone thinks that a tooth ache that leads to a root canal because of an infection in the canal not caused by tooth decay is not a medical condition...get in line to kiss BugsyR's ass....take a number...
....(If I could have traded that tooth ache pain for ruptured appendix pain instead...I would have...holy crap that sucked....
). Now I am saving up to cover the price of a crown...just a few hundred more needed.
What does all this mean?....educate yourself about the military's health care before using it as an example to socialize America's health care...please. The supposed "socialized" military medicine is no where near 100% efficient and hasn't been for years.
As for Congress...I didn't know that our lawmakers have "socialized" medicine. Does this mean that our Senators and Representatives can walk into any medical establishment and receive care without paying that establishment? Or does this statement mean that their health insurance is paid in full by their employers (us, the U.S. taxpayers)? The reason why I ask is that there are still private companies that cover their employees health care.
As for the White House...is there any country on earth that forces their leader to pay out of his own pocket for health care?
One last comment...have you ever seen the movie "Born on the Fourth of July". I've seen it once. Couldn't and won't watch it again because of personal reasons. The scene when Tom Cruise is receiving medical attention in the Veteran Hospital I guess I can use as a good example to protest the following quote from this thread...
"This system has worked fine for our Armed Forces, Congress & White House for over 200 years..."