Antique Stove

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:32 pm

Your stove is a dead ringer for the Glenwood model #111 shown on the, "stove hospital," web site. The overall design is almost identical. The only difference is in the decoration. Looking closely at the castings on your stove I would date it around 1910-1915, as the castings are in the Art Deco style. You see you had a treasure all along and didn't even realize it.
wsherrick
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: None
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: None
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: None
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: ScottD On: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:56 pm

I'm wondering on the date only because or the intricacy and the patent date. What do you think?
Posted pics of course. I just love this stove! Oh, by the way, after all of your replies, my wife has taken a new interest in the stove and now is thinking in the family room (which is what I wanted). Somehow it always needs to come from someone else than the husband! :mad:
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ScottD
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth Stoker

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:38 am

The patent date refers to when the design or some aspect of the stove was patented, not necessarily when it was actually built. The designs are definitely Art Deco which became the style around 1910 and lasted up until the late '20's. It was one of the last great style periods. What most people think of as Art Deco is really, "Art Modern," which came in during the late '20's and was at its height during the '30's and early '40's.
If you look at commercial buildings, interiors and furniture from the Teens and '20's you will recognize the similarity of their adornments to the decorative patterns on your stove. That's how I came up with the estimate of its age.
None the less, you apparently have one of the most efficient coal stove designs ever thought of. Sometimes I find it ironic that many of us in this time period are re-learning what our grand parents and great grand parents had already figured out a long time ago.
wsherrick
 
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: None
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: None
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

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Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: ScottD On: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:56 am

You are more knowledgeable in the times than I. I thought art deco was in the 30's and mostly 40's. Little did I know. And it is true, as far as we seem to progress, our future is surely in our past! "Back to the future!"
ScottD
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth Stoker

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: sharkman8810 On: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:52 pm

Scottd. That is truly a beaut, and if you have the draft to pull the heat up and down the back, it will surely do a lot of heating for you. I dont think the coalbrookdale darby stove i was looking at was a true antique, even though I dont know if i could tell one from the other. I didn't look at it super close because it isnt big enough to heat what i am going to do. I have a hitzer 82 on the way that is rated 80k, and the darby is only 55k or so. I would of liked to have gotten it for the family's hunting camp, but it is too pricey for me to put in a cabin i use only a few times a year.
sharkman8810
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 82 ul
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 82 u.l.

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: ScottD On: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:19 pm

I am dyeing to see how it works this winter. My main stove is an Alaska Hearth model that I picked up about a month ago. It's a stoker that can vary from 5K to 85K BTU. That's what sparked my interest in bringing out ol' black beauty. Wife wasn't interested until I showed her the thread and what people were saying about it. We shall see what the winter brings. I could alway store it in the summer to free up space in my family room but for the winter it would be nice to spark it up!
My neighbor found out I was really researching coal this year and jumped on board. He ordered a Hitzer insert. He liked it because it has the gravity feed. Good luck on your winter. I will post the final install in the fall/winter.
Scott
ScottD
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth Stoker

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:25 pm

Let us see it after you get it all shined up. I'm sure your other half will like it a lot more after that. You should be able to find someone in your area that does plating for a reasonable price and get the nickel parts replated.
You might find you like the old one better than the modern Alaska stove. It would be interesting to compare how the two stack up against each other.
I know one thing for sure-the old stove will still work if the power goes out since you and your two arms supply the power to run it. :)
wsherrick
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: None
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: None
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: None
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:08 am

*Slowly drives by Scott's house to see if anybody is home* :bag:
Adamiscold
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Chubby Sr. Old School

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:17 am

Adamiscold wrote:*Slowly drives by Scott's house to see if anybody is home* :bag:



...."but sees Devil's car backed into the driveway....with the trunk open & speeds off." :devil:
Devil505
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: ScottD On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:19 am

I think I am changing my profile to say I live in North Dakota! :lol:
Devil5052,
I still owe you pics of my coal I bought for my Alaska. If you remember I posted the pics of the Alaska stove but couldn't change the size of the coal pics in time. I was building a bin outside but I am now taking atvantage of using garage space. I figure getting the coal trips to the stove would be easier and warmer, and I already have 2 walls and a cement floor. That's a couple of dollars right there in savings. Well back into the garage to finish making space. You must know what a typical New England garage looks like. FULL!!! And no cars unless you count the kids battery trucks and my lawn tractor and 2 quads and..... :? But not the antique Walker anymore :P !

Scott
ScottD
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth Stoker

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:43 pm

But not the antique Walker anymore :P !



Yeah, now it's more easily accessible inside the house :whistle:
Adamiscold
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Chubby Sr. Old School

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: ScottD On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:11 pm

As long as you can get past my 2 killer Black Labs! You might get jumped on and licked to pieces! :lol:
ScottD
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth Stoker

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:15 pm

I'll bring some hamburger with me. :)
Adamiscold
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Chubby Sr. Old School

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: ScottD On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:33 pm

I sent an e-mail to Emery at Stove Hospital in R.I and he briefly told me that a Mr. Walker made stoves for a short time in Boston before Teaming up with Mr. Pratt forming the Walker and Pratt Stove Company and started making Crawford stoves from there on. I did read about Walker and Pratt but can't find anything on just Walker. Who knows, I could have a stove from a very limited production. He suggested I get a new shaker grate cast to have a spare when this one wears out. I e-mailed him back with more questions but don't expect to here back until Monday or so. We will see 8-)
ScottD
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth Stoker

Re: Antique Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:39 pm

No need to abscond with Scott's stove. The stove stores listed in the links a few posts back have several models of the same design available in various sizes. Just get out the old check book and bite the bullet. :)

In fact, it seems that these stoves are around the same price as some of the new ones which many will have to wait until next spring to get. Instead of waiting I would get one of these beautiful old ones. You would have an effective stove right now without the wait and if you wanted a modern one in the future, the antique stove should have a high resale value.
It's something to think about.
wsherrick
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: None
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: None
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: None
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: None
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

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