A Few Questions

A Few Questions

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:40 am

Keystoker Koker Questions.

1. How many pounds does the ash pan hold?

2. How many pounds of coal do you burn on average?

3. Is it ok to place the unit directly on a piece of 3/4" plywoood that sits directly on a painted concrete floor?



Appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks!
jrn8265
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker 160

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:07 am

jrn8265 wrote:3. Is it ok to place the unit directly on a piece of 3/4" plywoood that sits directly on a painted concrete floor?


Do you mean you want to place the stoker over a piece of plywood? Even if allowed I wouldn't consider doing that. I don't know about that particular unit but the larger stokers like the EFM's or my Van Wert don't have a bottom. Hot ashes could ignite the wood. Even if it has a bottom you're still running a risk. Any combustible material should be kept away from any stove that burns solid fuel.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:09 am

So what should I place the koker on instead of plywood? Do you have any suggestions? Thanks!
jrn8265
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker 160

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Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:16 am

jrn8265 wrote:So what should I place the koker on instead of plywood? Do you have any suggestions? Thanks!


Why not just leave it on the concrete floor?
Devil505
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:19 am

At the very least, place it on several layers of concrete 'backing board' that is used as underlayment for ceramic tile.. A koker is a rather 'industrial' looking heater, usually they go in a basement.. if it is going on a combustable floor, I'd pour a concrete pad to place it on. Assuming the combustable floor is strong enough to support both the Koker and the concrete..

Greg L

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LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:21 am

Thanks, it is going in the basement but I have water proofing and paint over my cement floor...I know wierd, just bought the house..so I think I'll put the koker on the concrete backing board per Greg on top of that paint/proofing. Thanks!
jrn8265
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker 160

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:25 am

If the Koker has a full floor in it's design, I'd just raise it up on some 2" concrete patio stones.. cheap, and will keep the moisture from the concrete floor from rotting the bottom of the cabinet.

.Greg L.
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:33 am

good idea with the patio stones.....maybe I'll make a 8' by 5' area of those stones layed tightly together on the cement floor....that what you thinking?
jrn8265
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker 160

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:45 am

I have a keystone koker that just sits on a rectangular concrete pad on the four corners to allow air flow under it. With a solid bottom there is plenty of strength & easier to vac for clean-up.
samhill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:47 am

Samhill, so you just have 4 cement blocks, one under each corner of the koker? Also, can you share with me which side you load the 250lb hopper from? If you are looking at the front of the koker is it best to load it on the right side or left side? I Can't get my hands on a manual or picture of the hopper and how it opens. Thank you!!
jrn8265
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker 160

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:25 am

I`m not sure what the 90 looks like, I have the 160 add on furnace on that the hopper is in the rear (the glass being the front) & on my set up it`s easy to load from the back of the hopper. The concrete pads I use are the 0ne inch high ones, you should take into consideration the height of the hopper to make it as easy as can be to load. Hope this helps, I don`t know how simular the stoves are.
samhill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: Razzler On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:11 pm

What about a nice 8'x5' tile pad? Can lay it right on the concrete. Cheap tile from the big box store.. :|
Razzler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Buck

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: CoaLen On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:06 pm

We just installed a Koker in our basement and used four red bricks, one in each corner, as the base. This allows air to circulate underneath. I think this air circulation is important during the summer months.
The ash bucket is made of galvanized sheetmetal, 17 1/2 " dia by 11 1/2" high and is labeled "1 bushel" in size.
-Len
CoaLen
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker Koker
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:41 am

My concern is how hot the bottom of the koker gets. I have painted concrete floors....with the koker bottom 1" off the floor supported by only 4 bricks in each corner the heat might work on the painted floor in a bad way.....might just put down a complete 7'x5' layer of 1" patio bricks for it to sit on not touching the floor at all. Why the need for circulation under the koker? Thanks
jrn8265
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker Koker
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker 160

Re: A Few Questions

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:45 am

Concrete is very pourous and large amounts of moisture vapor come up out of the ground. By having the boiler elevated, you minimize the affect on the metal. (rust)
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

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