Rubber roof

Rubber roof

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:39 am

Can a SS chimney be mounted through a flat rubber roof? Also what is the clearance for a single walled pipe to combustible materials? I'm thinking of either going through a corner wall which has two windows near it or up through the rubber roof if it's at all possible to do?
Adamiscold
 
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:04 am

Rubber roof will need a riser/small chase http://www.selkirkcorp.com/WorkArea/sho ... px?id=4344
Double wall stove pipe inside the house 8-12" http://www.selkirkcorp.com/WorkArea/sho ... px?id=1836
SS insulated chimney pipe 2" http://www.selkirkcorp.com/WorkArea/sho ... px?id=4334
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: Freddy On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:32 pm

Adamiscold wrote:what is the clearance for a single walled pipe to combustible materials?



36 inches.
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:27 pm

36 inches.


Really that far? That stinks, I would like to grab that extra heat for the house before it escapes into the crisp cool air. What is it for a double wall pipe and is a barometric damper double or single walled?


Thanks cape, I'm going to have to try and figure out what all those are and how it'll all go together. Is there any place that has it laid out in easier terms so I can know it and would be able to show it to a building inspector if need be?
Adamiscold
 
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:19 am

The clearance from my hopper is 2", so I'm assuming that in a corner my stove would have to be at least 2" from either side of the wall (plenty of room for working behind the hopper). If I come out with a single pipe on top of my stove then I would have to move it 36" away from the wall, am I understanding this correctly? I do not wish to go out that far from the room so if I'm using one of those barometric dampers can I just use a double walled pipe to keep my stove close to the wall, or do I not need the pipe?

Also the height of my stove is 39" and the height in my room is 90" do I have enough room to go straight up through the rubber roof and still be able to use a barometric damper and I guess a tee is recommended with a coal stove? I'm just trying to figure out if this is doable or not, since here it would be a temporary spot (few years) and the least expensive way since I would only need to go out about 4' above our roof with the chimney.
Adamiscold
 
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:48 pm

You would be pretty thin if 2" was roomy! you have 2' correct? Double wall stove pipe will give you a 6-12 inch clearance to combustible wall depending on MFG.
You do not gain that much heat from the pipe relative to the stove/furnace/boiler. Check with MFG on chimney total height they usually say min 15 feet. Baro can be put in a tee with double wall pipe, that is what I did.I can provide a picture.
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:11 am

You would be pretty thin if 2" was roomy! you have 2' correct?


Yes, I was saying 2" from the stove MFG to what ever space would be comfortable to work around it.


Check with MFG on chimney total height they usually say min 15 feet.



I don't see where you come up with a min of 15' chimney height? From reading the mfg requirements they all seem to go by the min of 3' above the roof and two feet above the ten foot reference line. Which it seems 4' would be high enough for my chimney going up through my flat rubber roof.

Baro can be put in a tee with double wall pipe, that is what I did.I can provide a picture.


Newbie question, they don't come already installed in a tee you have to put them in there yourself?
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:02 am

Newbie question, they don't come already installed in a tee you have to put them in there yourself?

Not for double wall pipe. The baro tee is a strap-on device, not a true tee. You would destroy the double wall pipe. I had a custom adapter made for $10 out of stainless sheet stock.
I don't see where you come up with a min of 15' chimney height? From reading the mfg requirements they all seem to go by the min of 3' above the roof and two feet above the ten foot reference line. Which it seems 4' would be high enough for my chimney going up through my flat rubber roof.

You are correct for chimney penatration specs but the stove MFG usually wants 12-15 feet for draft to properly vent combustion products.
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:48 pm

Not for double wall pipe. The baro tee is a strap-on device, not a true tee. You would destroy the double wall pipe. I had a custom adapter made for $10 out of stainless sheet stock.


So in order to use a double wall pipe you would have to destroy it in order to get the baro attached to it? Would it pass an inspection? Could you post a picture of yours please.



You are correct for chimney penetration specs but the stove MFG usually wants 12-15 feet for draft to properly vent combustion products.



Cape I tried looking over on their web site trying to find where it says 12-15 feet and I just don't see any where, is this like the minimum with all the different brand name chimney mfg? If I have to go that high I'm going to be placing our chimney in a tree, so I wont be able to place it where we are looking to put it. Plus to really go higher then 5' we would need to anchor it to the roof which means more holes in a rubber roof since it's at the furthest place away from the house's main roof line.
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:46 pm

http://www.leisurelinestoves.com/files/32645357.pdf
This has your setbacks at the bottom of the page. Those are the distances an inspector will require. Must have 12 inches to the side. Use a string the length of the setback and if you make any contact with the wall it is too close. They want the chimney to be 18" into the room too.

You must toss the strap-on tee and use a double wall tee with an adapter to keep the baro door out of the air flow. I'll snap a pic of the baro adapter later.

Ask Lesiure Line what the minimum chimney height is for the Pioneer. Leisure Line Stove Company
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Re: Rubber roof

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:32 am

Thanks cape, will do.
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