Thank you Dick [Devil505]. All you answered is correct, including that our 180* opposed political views will not effect our friendship.
I've been backing off on my posting, trying to not answer every question when I first read it. The forum has increased in membership greatly and there are lots of other members who can answer the standard, often asked questions.. If after a day or so, I'll answer the questions if I can.
I'm aware of several 'work-welfare' systems, but often they get taken to court and dumbed-down till they are just a welfare system.. Yes, there certainly are tiems when a society needs to extend a helping hand to the needy. But like Trader said, too many people scam the system then you end up with 5 and 6 generations of a 'family' on welfare, unable to work sucessfully, un teachable. untrainable. A social disaster.. like what floated to the surface in New Orleans after Katrina.. What a mess.. I was embarassed to see that in our country.. it's a crying shame to see people in our country who are offered a free education who as adults can't speak english, or write or read.. and all because they just don't want to or don't need to.. just go to the welfare office, grunt a few times. and get on the dole.. and get paid to breed and breath.. and get disgustingly fat.. Did you see any skinny, underfed New Orleans folks in the news... nope, not a one.. that's the way it is in a welfare state,, the taxpayers are skinny, they are worked to the bone to pay their taxes and keep food on the table for their family,, but the welfare folks just hang out in front of the TV and eat and breed.
BTW, I've collected unemployment twice in my life... both times were seriously demeaning, and depressing.. the first time so bad that I quite going to the Unemployment office even before I got another job.. I just couldn't stand it anymore..