"Stops" for Harman Shaker Mechanisms?

 
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 8:28 am

A recent reply I made to a new member member with a Harman TLC 2000 just got me to thinking:
Most Harman's seem to share a great shaker mechanism that opens wide enough (at full travel of the shaker handle) to allow you to dump your ashes on clean out. This system can be a problem however (in normal shaking down) if you push/pull to far on the handle & you can accidentally dump too much of your fire, especially when rushed. Last winter, I started to think about a manual "stop" that could be attached to the stove that would prevent this problem but then could be removed/disabled when you did intend to dump. Maybe someone here, with good metal working skills, could think of a simple, cheap device?
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Post by CapeCoaler » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 9:06 am

It has always been a 'feel' kind of thing for me. Chalk and magnets worked for me while learning how far was too far.

 
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Post by Uglysquirrel » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 9:07 am

How about two limit bars on either side of the shaker lever, attach the bars to heavy cheap magnets that you can easily move to make adjustments? They come off if you want to sell your stove to me.

 
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 9:09 am

Think I've got it!!

Just above the ash pan on the left side of the stove (above a rail) there is the inside connecting rod assembly for the shaker grates that travels front to back probably about 4' or so ..(Left side of the pics)

If I can insert a small metal/masonry block front & back that will limit the travel of this assembly, it will work! :idea:

I'll post pics when I jury-rig something! :lol:[

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Post by Uglysquirrel » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 9:13 am

so THATS what the inside of a coal stove looks like with a BIG ash pan!!I'm jealous.

 
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 9:41 am

Eureeka!!

Made 2 small blocks of wood & covered them with tin foil. (They are on a rail below the fire anyway)
& they work great to stop the grates fro m fully opening. When I want to dump the ashes I'll just remove these blocks!

Think I'll sell these for $100.00 a piece! :lol: (plus tinfoil!)

Larger block is for the back , smaller one up front

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Post by Adamiscold » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 10:16 am

You don't think the rocks are going to be a little hot and a pita to move each time you want to empty your ash pan?

I'm no coal expert here devil, but it seems like you are going to have some trouble trying to vent your stove with the pipe sitting on the floor :nana:


 
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 10:38 am

Adamiscold wrote:I'm no coal expert here devil, but it seems like you are going to have some trouble trying to vent your stove with the pipe sitting on the floor :nana:
I was wondering why my draw was so weak!....Thanks Adam! :clap: :devil:

 
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 10:43 am

Adamiscold wrote:You don't think the rocks are going to be a little hot and a pita to move each time you want to empty your ash pan?
The blocks sit on a rail above the ash pan but below the shaker grates so they won't have to be touched unless I want to dump for clean out when the fire is out.

 
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Post by Adamiscold » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 11:05 am

Ok devil you stated this
When I want to dump the ashes I'll just remove these blocks!
so I just took it as you would have to remove them every time you need to empty the ash pan to dump the ashes.

Just note that I am here for you man :yes:

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 11:25 am

Me thinks you may turn the wood to charcoal during the first fire!
How about firebrick cut to the correct size on a wet saw or with a dry blade on a cheap circular saw?

 
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Post by Adamiscold » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 11:31 am

Damn cape you know how old this guy is? He'll properly cut his fingers off!!

I say the wood in tin foil will work great for you devil.

 
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 11:34 am

CapeCoaler wrote:How about firebrick cut to the correct size on a wet saw or with a dry blade on a cheap circular saw?
Absolutely correct. I could replace those blocks with small masonry blocks of some type. I can play with the size of the wooden ones & then just replace them if need be. (I may even just try them first as they will be below the fire & protected top & bottom by metal rails, so I'll see)
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Post by Devil505 » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 11:36 am

Adamiscold wrote:Damn cape you know how old this guy is? He'll properly cut his fingers off!!

I say the wood in tin foil will work great for you devil.
Hey....I figure I still have enough fingers & thumbs to make at least 10 blocks! :devil:

 
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Post by Adamiscold » Tue. Aug. 19, 2008 4:42 pm

:funny: Just make sure the wife is home before you start on the first one.


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