Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:28 pm

Would appreciate some input from you guys on where's the best deal to purchase stove and chimney pipe and for a thru the wall installation what is better for the outside piping ,double or triple wall pipe ?
Jack Magnum
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: syncmaster On: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:21 pm

Lowes has a pretty good selection of stove pipe and they also sell a thru the wall kit.
syncmaster
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: harmanVF3000 Coal/oil option
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: VF3000
Stove/Furnace Model: Harman VF3000

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:10 pm

Yeah,
I called them today and they sell Selkirk supervent. The woman was a little confused so I guess I'll pay a visit there tomorrow.
Jack Magnum
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000


Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:43 pm

:lol: Yup, get that alot at the auto parts stores too!

My advice would be stay far far away from Home Depot / Lowes & buy some good 316 stainless pipe online.

Here is my pipe that I bought @ Home Depot after 1 season of burning coal & 6 months in a damp basement:
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After that, I bought some Heat-Fab 304 stainless chimney liner as my stove pipe:
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That even ended up with some small pinholes from corrosion. If I were to do it again, I'd spend the extra $$$ for the 316.

Jack Magnum wrote:...what is better for the outside piping ,double or triple wall pipe ?


The number of walls dictates your clearance to combustibles: If nothing is within 18" of the pipe, use single wall. Double wall ( if I remember correctly ) needs only 2"-3" clearance, & triple I would guess would be even closer.

For going through a wall, I would get as many walls as they make! Not that a coal fire gets that hot, but you have to think worst-case scenario -- like if the wife doesn't remember to close the ash door on the stove & runs out shopping.... :shock:

One thing I forgot to mention about using chimney liner -- sometimes the elbows don't fit as nicely as the black stovepipe. You have to be patient & aggressive with putting them together. Mine was a royal pain in the ass. Once I got it together, I left it together -- even to clean. Saves many headaches
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: gambler On: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:11 pm

I purchased a complete supervent chimney at a garage sale. It was purchased new at Lowes and never installed. (The price was right $250) and I had one 3ft section left over that I returned to Lowes for store credit ($65). I only have 1 winters burn time on it and it looks great but I can not vouch for how long it will last. Talk to me in 10 years or so and I will have a better idea of the life of a supervent chimney burning coal.
gambler
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:58 pm

Well,
I bought my complete manufactured chimney at Lowes BEFORE I read the post and seen the pictures of 304 s.s. . I got the thru the wall kit and my chimney pipes and through the tee pipe and my adjustable roof anchor bracket for around 715.00 . I thought that was pretty cheap.I bought Selkirk supervent made in Canada with a lifetime warranty. Just have to see what happens.
Jack
Jack Magnum
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:20 am

I used 22 ga. Heat fab black stove pipe last season with no corrosion issues at all, even the paint is still intact.

I can't say the same for the galvanized pipe on my oil boiler, I took it down the other day to clean it and half of it crumbled in my hands.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:15 pm

Galvanized pipe comes in 2 gauges.30 and 24.24 is for smoke pipe,30 is for ductwork.Some people use 30 ga. as smoke pipe(I've even seen some contractors do it).Even on oil 30 ga. will only last 1 or 2 seasons.DON'T USE 30 GA.FOR SMOKE PIPE.
DON
BIG BEAM
 
Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:16 pm

markviii wrote:I used 22 ga. Heat fab black stove pipe last season with no corrosion issues at all, even the paint is still intact.

I can't say the same for the galvanized pipe on my oil boiler, I took it down the other day to clean it and half of it crumbled in my hands.


where did you get your heat fab pipe
DON
BIG BEAM
 
Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: gambler On: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:37 pm

I bought my complete manufactured chimney at Lowes BEFORE I read the post and seen the pictures of 304 s.s.


What pictures of 304 S.S.?
gambler
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:25 am

BIG BEAM wrote:where did you get your heat fab pipe
DON


I bought mine at my local stove shop, but you can order it online if no one local stocks it. Here is one place that sells it:
http://www.ventingpipe.com/category.cfm?categoryID=157
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Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:10 pm

Thanks markvlll

DON
BIG BEAM
 
Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:20 pm

It is my understanding that galvanized "stove" pipe is not for use with solid fuel appliances. It is primary for air flow situations. It can be used to vent oil and gas burners. Black stove pipe is the appropriate economy choice for solid fuel venting inside the building while insulated or multi-wall pipe is the economy choice for outside the building. The quality choices for solid fuel appliances are: stainless steel pipe from the appliance to the chimney and, a clay lined masonry chimney, preferably one that runs through the home's interior rather than on the side of the home. Budgets, availability and situtations ultimately guide the user. There is no one right way to do it.

The problem with galvanized pipe is two fold. The first problem is that at high temperatures as experienced in wood burning, the high temps cause a noxious outgassing from the zinc. The second problem is that with coal burning, the high sulphur content in the effluent causes sulphides to react easily and rapidly with the zinc, corroding the galvanized pipe more quickly than steel pipe.
mikeandgerry
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson Anthratube 130-M

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: TdiDave On: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:42 pm

markviii wrote:I used 22 ga. Heat fab black stove pipe last season with no corrosion issues at all, even the paint is still intact.

I can't say the same for the galvanized pipe on my oil boiler, I took it down the other day to clean it and half of it crumbled in my hands.


Question: i am replacing that cheap "Big box" store stove pipe with some of this Heat-Fab 22 ga. pipe, it reads that the female end is expanded so the male end is full diameter. Will this work with my Field controls baro damper ?
TdiDave
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line - Pocono
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono

Re: Best place to buy stove and chimney pipe and ???

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:38 am

The best place to buy this stuff is a commercial heating supply house (where the contractors go). Quality products at a reasonable price.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea