Winning in Iraq isn't News

spc wrote:Cable News Ratings for Friday August 15, 2008
Monday, August 18th, 2008

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/top-news




Who??

How about Neilson?

stoker-man wrote:If anything, Fox news is too balanced.

Right!!....& Keith Olbermann would probably be McCain's Press Secretary!

Devil505 wrote:Who??

How about Neilson?

States this at the bottom of page.
"Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2008 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved."

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/18/ca ... -2008/4723

If you want it right from Nielsen you gotta pay.

Devil505 wrote:
Who??

How about Neilson?

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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/Cable_Time_Period_Ranker_(LIVE+SD)_-_Week_of_08-11-08_(2).pdf

Not only are they burying the news competition they are burying entertainment channels too. Also note these dates include olympic coverage on MSNBC

CNN holds a slight edge in the 24-54 demographic:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp

Additionally thats using the 24-54 demographic, click the link name "continued" below to get full viewership as FNC buries the others when the full viewership numbers are used.

Also from that link above:

Cable Ranker: Week of August 11

Fox News Channel took the silver in all of cable last week, finishing second in prime time with 1,930,000 average viewers (Live+SD). CNN took 17th (913,000) and MSNBC 27th (654,000). All networks saw week-to-week increases.

FNC was 6th in Total Day (984,000), MSNBC 14th (583,000) and CNN 22nd (526,000). MSNBC was helped in total day from strong Olympic ratings.

The CNN numbers are different for prime time that those from the other rating systems but the FNC and MSNBC are quite close.

Thanks guys,

Amazing isn't it? O'Reilly gets almost as many viewers on the repeat of his show at 11PM as Olbermann gets for his single showing and its prime time!
Fox News gets triple the ratings of CNN during prime time. Oh CNN, where have all, the viewers gone...long time passing....

I find it interesting that, while I'm perfectly comfortable in agreeing that MSNBC has a illiberal bias (keith Olbermann, etc) & panders to its more liberal viewers, that no one here seems willing to admit that Fox News has a conservative bias. There is nothing wrong with a media outlet having an opinion like the New York Times is a liberal paper & the Wall Street Journal tends to the conservative. Why the dodge here??
(By the way, how much time is Fox News devoting to our "Winning" in Iraq?)

I do agree that Fox has a conservative slant but the difference is, they do always offer liberals air time, problem is most are not confident enough in what they believe to go on the air without a bleeding heart throwing them softballs.
And they are unabashedly pro American which obviously most Americans (by as much as a 3 to 1 margin - see viewer stats) find refreshing when compared to the America bashing anti military CNN, MSNBC, NBC and the old Dan Rather gang.

coalmeister wrote:I do agree that Fox has a conservative slant but the difference is, they do always offer liberals air time,

CNN & MSNBC have Pat Buchanon & other conservatives on almost as much as their anchors, every night. (I guess it just depends on who is defining "Fair & Balanced")
I see no difference!

Edit: BTW.......Bush bashing is no more America bashing than Bill Clinton bashing was America bashing!

Wasn't talking about Bush bashing, I do a bit of that to

coalmeister wrote:Wasn't talking about Bush bashing, I do a bit of that to

OK.....then other than Bush bashing, can you point out some specific times any of the networks have engaged in what you claim here?

coalmeister wrote:America bashing anti military CNN, MSNBC, NBC and the old Dan Rather gang

I haven't heard anything of the sort??

You must be joking. When the war was going badly it was the lead story every evening with all the gory details, remember the hunt for the casket pictures? Not to mention Abu Grab story they reported with glee.

Remember the Marines massacre in Haditha story? PA Senator Murtha (a puke in his own right) trumped it all up, but is now mum. Did you know that almost all, if not all, were vindicated? Of course not. It was just another witch hunt by the America hating liberal media - They make me sick

Everything is relative.
If it bleeds it leads!
Stability in the Mideast is our primary mission because our/world economic stability is our interest.
A stable Iraq balances out Iran. Pakistan keeps India in check. Israel ....I could go on.
If the Mideast goes to hell in a hand basket, oil will see new highs that make $150/barrel seem cheap.
Over 60% of our oil is imported.
Look at the cost/benefit ratio, $10 billion/month by the gallons imported.
For November 2005, oil imports cost the US $24 billion, and amounted to more than one-third of the trade deficit.
http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html
330 million barrels/month at $100/barrel make $30 billion/month for oil imports, mostly to nations who only like us for our cash.
42 gallons to a barrel, 13,860,000,000/gallons, less than a buck a gallon for the $10 billion a month for the military that keeps the oil flowing.
Yes, I know gas is only about 20% of the barrel. You consume the rest indirectly.
Do you think oil would go up more than $40/barrel if the us military pulled out totally.
The $10 billion does not go away if we pull out of Iraq. The troops still get paid. Food, fuel and guns still need to be purchased.
There are some avoided cost to the withdrawal but not the whole $10 billion.
Until we generate 100% of our energy needs within our borders from whatever means, we will need to project our power to protect our interests.
Those interests include oil and the free movement of the oil.
Not only for us but for our friends around the world.
I do not care who does it but market forces work if government subsidies are eliminated.
If anyone is concerned about the number of military KIA you should be outraged by the number of DWI deaths in this country.
Yes, I support the military 100%. Every job has fatalities, it is a sad fact of life, deal with it.
Thank god we have men and women who are willing to put their lives on the line every day to protect our way of life.
In 2000, 40 percent of highway accident deaths involved alcohol (16,653 of the 41,812 total deaths)
http://www.councilonalcoholism.net/DWI.htm
Do not get me started on the corn/ethanol fiasco.
The hemp/fallowed land issue is another fuel/subsidy issue.
It is like a junkie and the dealer.
Cleanup the junkie and the dealer has no power over him/her/us.
When common sense and practicality prevail we all will win!

coalmeister wrote:You must be joking. When the war was going badly it was the lead story every evening with all the gory details, remember the hunt for the casket pictures? Not to mention Abu Grab story they reported with glee.

I'm not joking & you misunderstand what news is. News is not coverage of a bank cashing checks on a nice sunny day. News is coverage of that bank being robbed! News is not coverage of prisoners calmly walking to lunch. News is prisoners rioting & killing other prisoners!

coalmeister wrote:Remember the Marines massacre in Haditha story? PA Senator Murtha (a puke in his own right) trumped it all up, but is now mum. Did you know that almost all, if not all, were vindicated? Of course not. It was just another witch hunt by the America hating liberal media - They make me sick

Were you there at Haditha? Neither was I, but from what I have read, something very bad happened there & was in need of investigation. Congressman Murtha happens to be a combat wounded Marine who spent 37 years in & loves the Marine Corps & his country! That "Puke" won the Bronze Star & many Purple Hearts for his valiant service in Vietnam.....How many Purple Hearts do you have? What he was ringing the alarm bell about is that his beloved Marines are being put in a no win situation as "Peace Keepers" which they are not! Marines are warriors & only a fool would squander them they way this administration has.

Murtha's military service does not disqualify him from puke status. It was his judge & jury attitude toward his fellow Marines before they even had a single day in court that makes him so detestable in my book. Watch a reporter try to question him about it today, he runs like a cockroach when you turn the lights on, actions speak louder than words.
On a brighter note, where those Marines that took back Fallujah awesome or what? Some of the most courageous bunch of guys we may see in our lifetime.