Old Alaska Kodiak Stoker II Rebuild

 
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Post by arcticcatmatt » Fri. Sep. 12, 2008 1:50 pm

^ thanks for that

So this lobe can be a thing you set and forget or it can be a thing you adjust all the time.

I guess I will leave it where it is and see what happens. I thought the only adjustment for this feature was done with the controller "low-high".


 
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Post by Rick 386 » Fri. Sep. 12, 2008 2:20 pm

Matt,

Polaris Rick here. LOL I always pass the green machines on the sled trails.

Any way, you have a triburner. That one rheostat control increases the distribution fan blower speed, the combustion fan blower speed, and the stoker coal feed mechanism (the carpet). Hence the name "triburner." That linkage rod comes right off the shaft of the combustion fan motor to feed coal to the grate.

That is why some recommended to use a seperate combustion fan. Changing your rheostat would then only affect the feed and convection fan speeds. Now that lobe controls the amount of coal that will be fed to the grates. The rheostat controls how fast that amount of coal is being fed. If there is not enough air flow coming up from under the grate, the coal will not burn through enough before getting shoved off that grate.

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Post by Freddy » Fri. Sep. 12, 2008 2:29 pm

Good project! Ought to be a nice workhorse when you're done.

 
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Post by heatwithcoal » Fri. Sep. 12, 2008 3:22 pm

Makes me want a project stove now!! :D That's it, I am in the market for one now!!!

 
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Post by traderfjp » Fri. Sep. 12, 2008 4:47 pm

How do I get my wife to do work? What is your secret? :dancing:

 
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Post by arcticcatmatt » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 12:43 am

^ Promise her a good night in the sac.. Oh wait, we all do that every night and then they fall asleep :cry:

Thanks "polaris rich"!!! haha. If you have been on online snowmobile forums you have spoke to me I bet. My main one is snowmobilefanatics.com
And you passed alot of green sleds on the trail? Good thing my ZRT 600 triple is orange! haha

Well tonight I sanded the entire stove. Holy crap what a mess. I blasted it with air after and then washed it down with rags. Wow black oh black.

By the time I was done painting I went thru 2 seven dollar cans of rustoleam black high temp and I still need another can! I am buzzed. Ok, maybe its the beer.. dunno, but its not that bad HaHa

I took pictures but the stupid camera I am using is no recording the pictures. Damn thing!!! I will fix that in the morning and use a different camera. I also have to get to the stove parts store to get new parts. That is new gaskets, new grate.. and maybe new glass.. but doubt the new glass.

new pics to come! I will take more in the a.m. with my 2 mp cell phone if I have to.

They are pretty uneventfull but for you stove junkies it should satisfy your craving for a day haha. I am a moderator on the second largest snowmobile forum on the net (and the highest post count). I know how it works when your a "fanatic".

 
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Post by CoalHeat » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 7:41 am

^ Looking at woodncoals picture he doesn't have that setup.
I have the lobe...just hard to see in the photo.

Artic send me a PM with your email address, I'll send you the file of the manual for my Kast Console, the stoker mechanism is the same.


 
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Post by arcticcatmatt » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 5:03 pm

^ Done. Thanks

Well I went out today and was not happy with what I saw. The paint cover looked like crap. So I went to buy the new grate and gasket for it (my other gaskets are coming from the hardware store tommorrow or monday. While I was out I picked up 2 more cans of paint. I now have 2 16 oz cans of paint on this and 2 12 oz cans.

Here is the crap that came out of it
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door
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stoker
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hopper
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New parts compared to old (by the way I seen the dealer price on this. It was like 55-60 bucks. So he made about 40 bucks off that one sale alone)
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Here is the stove after the second coat and 2 hours of wait time
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I don't know why it looks like this. Will it go away when the stove runs? I have painted alot of things and never had something turn out so bad.

 
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Post by LsFarm » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 5:55 pm

It looks like 'blush'. This is caused by spraying in very humid conditions.. the humidity gets in the paint aerosol as it is sprayed on.. It may go away after it is fired.. worth a try..

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Post by Rick 386 » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 6:33 pm

Right-O Greg.

This is/was very common when spraying lacquer based automotive paint in summer's humid conditions. The only cure we had was to turn up the heat when spraying the product. It really used to stink having to turn the heat up to 90*+ in summertime. That was the only way we could stop the paint from blushing. And the darker the color the worse it shows. Black is the toughest.

IIRC I don't think firing up that heater is going to correct it. It will have to be resprayed in better less humid conditions.

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Post by traderfjp » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 7:42 pm

They sell the same high temp rustoleum paint in a brush on. It may help with coverage. I saw it at Lowes. My favorite paint in Stove Bright. It really covers well and holds up great.

 
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Post by CoalHeat » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 8:41 pm

Definitely looks like "blush".

I don't know how it was by you, but it was damn humid all day here (still is).

Let it dry, give it a sanding and another coat...when it's less humid. It won't go away by itself.

 
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Post by traderfjp » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 9:15 pm

I hope you're wearing a respirator when you spray that stuff. It is very lethal when you spray indoors like that. When I was younger I inhaled my share of paint. I always use a respirator now even when emptying ash. I'm also interested on how the paint in the fire chamber holds up. I think I would have used 1400 degree stuff but the rustoleum is suppose to be good for rust too so...........

 
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Post by arcticcatmatt » Sat. Sep. 13, 2008 11:25 pm

Crap that wasn't the replies I was hoping for. I already have 30 bucks into painting this. Uggg.

Yeah it was humid here in NY today and has been. Its not going to go away this time of year I bet.

I guess I will have to pony up another can just to do a finish coat and hope it covers. I would have to paint it in the dead of winter to beat this humidity! Damn it!

No I wasn't using a respirator. Don't own one. I am still alive so I guess all is well haha. I was doing it in an open garage however. There is black "dust" all over the floor. Crazy.

I have a dehumidifier going in my basement, maybe I will give it its final coat down there.. I was hoping I could avoid that.

I want to get it fired up outside to rid the smell from the "first burn".

If the hardware store has the gasket sealant I will ride my bicycle there and back tommorrow to get it and get the gaskets on (40 miles)

 
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Post by Linc » Sun. Sep. 14, 2008 6:14 am

I had used Rustoleum High Heat spray on my stoker. I fired it up outside,there was no noticable smell or smoke from the curing paint. I think partly because the stove body on a stoker doesn't get as hot as a hand feed stove does.


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