Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:48 am

Nothing but lip service for the election, with there plan nearly all the oil that is available would be off limits:


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5imPz0z6szykAL-CAKZDEZOAiDREgD935FR501
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A Democratic drilling proposal expected to be taken up by the House next week would allow energy development access to waters 50 to 100 miles from shore along almost all of the country's coastlines as long as a state agrees to drilling off its shore.

Waters off Florida's Gulf coast and a nationwide 50-mile coastal buffer would remain out of bounds to energy companies........




..............House Republicans on Friday cited data from Interior's Minerals Management Service that show that of the 9.75 billion barrels of oil believed to be off California only 5 percent lies beyond 50 miles. None of the 400 million barrels believed to be off Oregon and Washington is outside the protected buffer.

Of the estimated 3.5 billion barrels of oil believed to be recoverable off the Atlantic coast from Virginia to Georgia, 2.8 billion barrels would be available for drilling, but more than half of that would beyond 100 miles of shore where access would be more difficult, according to the Interior Department maps. About 700 million barrels is found within the 50-mile buffer.
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: TimV On: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:58 pm

With wisdom and forsight coming from the Democrats on energy (or anything else for that matter)we might all just as well apply to China for work visa'a...."Sure drill where there is no oil if you want"...
Too damn many dont have a clue what reality is. If they had to actually be responsible for actually producing to make a dollar instead of working for some government agency or the post office or school or state run prison system or some other government job where the thinking was all done for them...I think maybe they would see reality is that high oil prices are draining our pockets and its almost impossible for mom n pops of this world to make a dollar and would be happy to let the oilmen explore for oil on our turf. Lets face the facts we can no longer afford to fight the rest of the world for oil now that India and China are guzzling it as fast as we are.
Leaving the drilling up 50 invidual states now wouldnt that be a nice mess.... :roll:
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: spc On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:41 pm

Democrats cave on drilling. :dancing: :clap: :up:

"Democrats have decided to allow a quarter-century ban on drilling for oil off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts to expire next week, conceding defeat in an months-long battle with the White House and Republicans set off by $4 a gallon gasoline prices this summer.

“If true, this capitulation by Democrats following months of Republican pressure is a big victory for Americans struggling with record gasoline prices,” said House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_go_co/offshore_drilling
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:51 pm

spc wrote:“If true, this capitulation by Democrats following months of Republican pressure is a big victory for Americans struggling with record gasoline prices,” said House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio."



Yup...the gutless Democrats caved in to Bush/McCain lies.......AGAIN.

More drilling will do nothing to help achieve energy independence or lower gasoline prices in the U.S. ever!

It is simply an election eve lie & tactic to get votes. What it will do is increase Exxon-Mobil profits....PERIOD!
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:14 pm

Taking those pills again, Devil???
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:17 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:Taking those pills again, Devil??



You been watching the news lately John? ;)

Those pills allow me to clearly see the future, don't they. :lol:
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: spc On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:22 pm

Devil505 wrote:Those pills allow me to clearly see the future, don't they. :lol:


Come on Dick, fess up:
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:23 pm

Don't you realize there are more important stories in the news?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24 ... 21,00.html
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: ashburnham55 On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:25 pm

Democratic Energy Plan 2008 !

Goal: To stop our dependency on foreign oil.

Requirements;
No drilling off shore
No clean coal plants in America **
No wind farms in Nantucket sound
No Nuclear power plants
No drilling in Alaska
No hydroelectric dams

** Coal plants are OK in China

We must use renewable sources like wind except in Nantucket Sound

And always remember !

Drilling off shore will not lower prices at the pumps !
Drilling in Alaska will lower prices at the pump !
Clean Coal will not lower prices at the pump !
Nuclear power plants will not help lower energy bills ?
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:25 pm

spc wrote:
Devil505 wrote:Those pills allow me to clearly see the future, don't they. :lol:


Come on Dick, fess up:
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Alright...You caught me....My pills & that crystal ball.
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:43 pm

Devil505 wrote:Yup...the gutless Democrats caved in to Bush/McCain lies.......AGAIN.

More drilling will do nothing to help achieve energy independence or lower gasoline prices in the U.S. ever!

It is simply an election eve lie & tactic to get votes. What it will do is increase Exxon-Mobil profits....PERIOD!


If we had opened up offshore and ANWAR to drilling 10 years ago as many wanted, this currrent oil crisis could have been delayed. The danger with drilling is the concern of complacency. Drilling is a temporary patch until a break through is achieved with renewable fuels. But that's no reason not to drill now every where we can. It's a matter of national security. Democrats did the gutless thing as you said by letting this restriction expire.
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: spc On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:50 pm

coalkirk wrote:Democrats did the gutless thing as you said by letting this restriction expire.


Kind of like voting "PRESENT" :lol:
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:57 pm

coalkirk wrote:But that's no reason not to drill now every where we can. It's a matter of national security.



It's a moot point now anyway Terry. Everyone has caved to Bush./McCain & drilling will be allowed. (I figure next week we can expect to see the last oil shipment from Saudi Arabia arrive in Texas & we can all happily fill our SUV's for $1.29/gallon....That's next week....right?? ;) )

coalkirk wrote:Democrats did the gutless thing as you said by letting this restriction expire.


The current Democratic can always be counted on to do the gutless thing.......just as the current Republican Party can always be counted on to do the deceptive, hypocritical, greedy & America-Last thing.
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:16 pm

Devil505 wrote:It's a moot point now anyway Terry. Everyone has caved to Bush./McCain & drilling will be allowed. (I figure next week we can expect to see the last oil shipment from Saudi Arabia arrive in Texas & we can all happily fill our SUV's for $1.29/gallon....That's next week....right?? )


No, I don't think we'll ever see gas at $1.29/gallon again. But if we need to defend ourselves against, Russia, China, Venezuala, North Korea, Iran, or who ever, I'd like to be able to produce out own fuel without importation. It's always 10 years away. If we had commited to drilling in ANWAR in 1998, we be using that oil now.
This capitulation of the Dems tells me thay don't have a clue what to do to solve this energy crises.
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Re: Democrats Oil Drilling Plan: Smoke and Mirrors

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:40 am

coalkirk wrote:If we had commited to drilling in ANWAR in 1998, we be using that oil now.


I disagree. If we had been drilling in ANWAR since 1998, Exxon-Mobil would be selling that oil on the world market now & making even bigger profits & we...............well I guess we could just do what we always do....Go Pound Sand!


BTW.....The real reason for the war in Iraq was made crystal clear yesterday.....Shell Oil started operations selling Iraqi oil in Baghdad. (when do we taxpayers get our first dividend checks since it's our 10 billion/month that made this possible?)
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