Harman Mark II Installed

Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Patrick On: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:16 pm

Hi,
A few weeks ago I posted pictures of my coal bin and now I've finally finished redoing the stove room and installing the stove. We bought the Mark II back in March and had it running for two months until the weather warmed up. I dismantled everything so I could strip wallpaper and paint the room. I also painted the heat shield and wired up a fan control and an outlet for the fan.

Here's a picture of the room before and several of the stove installed...
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Old dining room, the stove is where you would be standing to take this picture
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The room now
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From the side, that's a towel sticking out of the tee..
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I started this project in the basement. I sistered all of the joists and added blocking between joists. I also added jack posts to split the load. The stove weighs 449 lbs and I was worried about the floor. Our house is 150 years old and everything sags a bit. We ripped up the carpet and were pleased to find maple flooring that was in pretty good shape. It could use a refinishing, but that will wait. I built the hearth up with plywood, cement board, sheet metal under the stove, and then tile. It's trimmed with Sipo, a mahogany type wood. The heat shield is 12 gauge steel. I bought it from Rockport Steel. They cut it and put the bend in the smaller piece that is to the side of the stove. I did the rest of the work in my shop. It's hanging 1" away from the wall and 1" off of the hearth. It is spaced with copper tubing I had and lagged to the wall framing. I painted it with Satin Black high heat stove paint. The chimney is located 2 feet behind the wall that is behind the stove. Class A chimney passes through the wall and space to the chimney. We had the chimney lined back in March. The final piece that I need is the barometric damper. I had installed the stove last spring without one, but decided to try it after reading about them here. This is a great site for information and ideas. I've learned alot here and I hope that by posting my installation and ideas it helps someone else.

Patrick
Patrick
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark II

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Mike Wilson On: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:21 pm

Very nice installation, congratulations!

By the way, are you aware that it's snowing inside your house? :what:
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Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Cap On: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:25 pm

Looks great. :!: I like the 12 gauge to help radiant some heat back into the room. I like Harmans having owned a Mark III and now the huge SF250.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF 250, domestic hot water loop, heat accumulator

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Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:40 am

Nice job Patrick, the setup looks great.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Chubby Sr. Old School

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:01 am

Nice job on the installation. I was curious about the baro when I saw the pictures, then I saw it poking out in the one picture. You are probably aware that fly ash builds up behind the baffle plate by the outlet of the stove. The baro serves 2 purposes on your install, it regulates the draft and you can remove it to get in and vacuum out the fly ash easily.

BTW I had problems with the squirrel cage on the blower, it got loaded with dust and cat/dog fur. I cut a piece of AC filter and placed it under the little cover that holds the screen over the air intake (on top of the screen). It's easy to keep clean with a vacuum.

I also see that you have the same problem that I have with wires, I have to have them all coiled up neatly and cable tied as well. I moved a lot of stuff around at my desk and all the PC wires are askew...makes me nuts, I ran out of cable ties. :shock:

About that snow falling in your house.....
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:06 am

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Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:15 am

Off Topic:
Digital Photography is nice, instant results, fast, no bubbles/no troubles but there's a lot to be said about a high quality SLR and good 35MM film. That said I also add that I rarely use my 35MM cameras any more.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:12 pm

All you need now is a manometer mounted on that side wall.
Give it that industrial/tec look :D
DON
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Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Patrick On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:45 pm

Thanks Guys,

Yeah.. sorry about the bad pictures. I almost didn't post them, but what fun would that be? I had just finished cleaning up, so I believe it is dust in the air. Of course, the house is old and I did just vacuum everything.. hmm.

Wood n'coal... I didn't actually have the baro in last night. There was a towel stuck in there. I now have the baro installed. I look foward to seeing if I notice a difference. That's a great idea with the furnace filter. I noticed last spring that the blower motor got a little louder even though we hardly used it. I cleaned and oiled it before I put it back on. As far as the wire ties, I use them for all kinds of things. My wife's office is in the house and everything is mounted and wire tied out of the way. It's much neater and easier to work around that way.

By the way.. here's the other side of the wall which happens to be a little alcove off of the attic stairway.
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Class A chimney into the chimney
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Thanks again.. Patrick
Patrick
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark II

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:24 pm

Hi Patrick,

That's a great idea with the furnace filter.


Just wanted to make sure you know it's a piece of room AC filter, not a piece of furnace filter.

You really did a nice job on the installation, just one question: In your photo of the pipe going through the alcove, is the chimney connection lower then the stove outlet? Kinda looks that way from the photo, or could be just offset. Hard to tell.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Patrick On: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:57 pm

You're right, it's actually offset. It rises several inches and also offsets several inches. The picture doesn't show it very well. I guess I read it fast about the filter part. I know what you mean now with the AC filter.
Thanks again..
Patrick
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark II

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:00 pm

So all you need now is some cold weather and you can light that baby up. :D
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Patrick On: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:40 pm

Well, since you mentioned it.. I lit it last night. I decided to throw a couple of pieces of wood in to heat us up a little as it started to cool off. Well, once there were some coals, I had to throw some coal in. It's still going nicely although not burning very hot at the moment. Tomorrow night will be mid 30's here though so I think I'll keep it going until then.
It's great to see that blue flame again!! :)
Patrick
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark II

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: JohnnyAsbury On: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:44 am

Would furnace filter not work as well ?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: 90 - Direct vent

Re: Harman Mark II Installed

PostBy: Careful On: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:59 am

Nice set up! I'm planning to the same type of stove (hopefully before spring!). What type of cement board did you use for the hearth, and how many layers?
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Stove/Furnace Model: Mark 2

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