broken boiler

broken boiler

PostBy: fishhunter On: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:52 pm

i have a tough question i have been thinking about for a couple day.:
i have a oil boiler that is about 12 years old and had it serviced recently and the guy said i need to replace the burner and the firebox which will cost $1000 or i can buy a new boiler for 2500-3000 what should i do? i also have a Alaska channing III which i use as the main source but you need a good reliable backup should something happen.
what would you do, fix or buy new?
fishhunter
 
Stove/Furnace Make: alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: channing III

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: stoker-man On: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:59 pm

Ask him why you need to change the burner. Get a specific answer and post it here. I don't know what brand of boiler you have, but all efm boilers have replaceable chambers.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:37 pm

fishhunter wrote:i have a oil boiler that is about 12 years old and had it serviced recently and the guy said i need to replace the burner and the firebox which will cost $1000 or i can buy a new boiler for 2500-3000.
What would you do, fix or buy new?


I would find a new service man. A 12 year old boiler should not NEED all that.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea


Re: broken boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 am

If a 12 year old boiler needs what the tech says, I'd get a new one. A decent boiler shouldn't need that after only 12 yrs. If you do the repair, you'll be doing it again in 12 yrs.

I can see maybe it needing a new end plate on the burner....about $15... or a new firebox if some idiot trashed the chamber while cleaning, but even those aren't usually more than a couple hundred bucks. & an hour or two to install. Yup, I'd get a second opinion.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:32 am

Dear broken Boiler
Look on Craig list for a spare oil gun just in case.
Are you talking about replacing the refraftory?
It cost 65 dollars to put new refractory in my 15 year old weiler mclain.
Not that big a deal it took me 3 hours to clean the boiler and about 15 minutes to replace the refracctory.
BDD
Blackdiamonddoug
 
Stove/Furnace Make: axemen 260 rebuilt by Matt
Stove/Furnace Model: stoker AA 260

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 am

The burner itself consists of several different sub-assemblies. There is a frame that everything bolts on to, a motor, fan, pump, pump coupling, nozzle assembly, and it may have a transformer on it and a few other pieces that will never fail unless physically abused. The only thing that will hurt the frame is a sledge hammer and it is doubtful all those other pieces could fail together. The pump would be the pricey piece, MAYBE $200 bucks, everything else mentioned would be well under $100 except the motor which would be in that neighborhood and all of these items would take just minutes to install. As mentioned, you can usually pick up a good used burner for $20-100 from craigslist, flyers, etc.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: Dallas On: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:36 am

I've got a couple of used Becket oil burners. PM me, if you need one.
Dallas
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Modified Russo C-35
Other Heating: Oil Hot Air
Stove/Furnace Make: Russo
Stove/Furnace Model: Modified C-35

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:24 am

I have seen complete oil fired boilers listed on craigslist for <$1000 in the last couple months. Lots of people have switched to alternate sources of heat and are selling the used boilers. Take a look around, you might find a good deal on a quality used boiler.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: fishhunter On: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:53 pm

he was able to replace a few parts on the burner ( the pump,and the control unit) and replaced the firebox as is was clearly worn thin. once he pulled it out and showed me he tapped it with his hammer and it broke through.we had a flood in the basement earier in the year during one of our swell foot of rain in a weekend deals and the sump pump quit. there was 18 inches of water in the basement before i noticed and replaced the pump. parts and labor -$500 so i guess i got out of it ok.. its a burnham boiler. i just want it to last another 5 -7 years until i have the coin to convert to geothermal.
fishhunter
 
Stove/Furnace Make: alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: channing III

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: stoker-man On: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:58 pm

Well, on the good side, a little knowledge saved you $500
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: Freddy On: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:33 pm

Well there, $500 wasn't so bad. As a back up it should be all set for yrs....or the next flood.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:05 am

I has a customer who lived right next to the river. These houses where he was at are the first in the area to get flooded. Doesn't take much, high water in a lot of places means flood for them. He had a Van-Wert like mine, whenever the flood was on its way he'd take all the pumps and everything else off that was easily damaged by water. I'll bet that boiler got fully flooded every 5 years. He said he'd hose it out good then relight it... :D Send the coal through mud and all.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: broken boiler

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:21 pm

Burnham is a very good boiler.If taken care of it will last a lifetime(50 years or so) as will most cast iron boilers.
DON
BIG BEAM
 
Stove/Furnace Make: USS Hot blast
Stove/Furnace Model: 1557M