Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Rex On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:15 pm

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: ashburnham55 On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:53 pm

Talking out of both sides your mouth is hard when you always have at least one foot in it already.

What a blow hard
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:47 pm

Bullshit Artist
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Jack Magnum On: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:47 pm

With Obama and Biden wanting to do away with coal burning I am surprised that they have obama leading Mc Cain in PA. Seems like the coal miners would be voting for Mc Cain.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:03 am

It's the population centers in and near Philly and Pitt where he's winning. If the electoral college went by counties he'd lose by massive margin. :P Most of PA is rural. He's another double talker, he doesn't mind dropping the fact he grew up here in "Hard coal" country and knows miners....
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: kozel On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:47 am

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and not that much of an artist.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:56 am

Riiiiiight.

Best I can see we have 66 operating muclear power plants in the USA. They make 20% of our power. Coal makes 50%. So, we'd need 165 NEW nuclear power plants to replace coal. Ya, right, like that's going to happen. I'll venture a guess if they built enough natural gas places to do the job we wouldn't have enough gas left to boil a cup of instant soup.

Don't forget that you cannot store AC electricity, not for one second. Every wind & solar electric NEEDS a back up of some kind to get it through when it's not producing. Wind and hydro dams work well. Wind comes up, let the dam fill with water, wind dies down, use the water from the dam, BUT, oh, gee golly, we've just removed most all the dams from Maine...poor lil' fishies needed to swim.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: BIG BEAM On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:30 am

Just take the 700 BILLION for the bail out and spend it on nuclear plants.OR better yet do both the fed has plenty of money,Don't they.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: SAU On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:54 am

I wish we could shut the mines down for just two weeks. All the hypocritical green treehuggers would change their minds very quickly. As a miner it never ceases to amaze me as to how ignorant these people are.

Without mines there is hardly anything of the civilized world.

Gypsum/sheet rock
iron
aluminum
coal
uranium
pencil graphite
plastics
glass
wires/copper
coins


Why am I telling you guys this? you already know.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: EnergyManager On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:13 pm

Hearing Biden say "No coal plants here in America" moved my vote from dead center to the right....

I grew up in the coal business, my family owned an independent anthracite breaker from 1935 to 1980. And I myself worked in the nuclear industry for over 20 years. The trouble with Obama-Biden's ideas on energy Is that they are not fact based.
1. It takes 10 to15 years to put a nuclear power plant on line.
2. Coal is not the pollution problem in the USA automobiles are. Double the mileage per gallon and we will cut the pollution from automobiles in half. No brain surgery here.
3. While coal does put out more C02 pollution than oil it is not a big percentage difference, so increase the mileage and reduce the pollution.
4. Simple solution for home heating. Insulate, Insulate, Insulate if you don’t lose it you don’t pay for it and you don’t pollute.
Where has the Common Sense gone, and when American going to start think this through, instead of listening to Politicians who really don’t understand and are only good for the sound bit.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:03 pm

Obama-Biden have no ideas.
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Mastiffman On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:20 pm

In the news this afternoon:

Gore urges civil disobedience to stop coal plants
http://www.reuters.com/article/environm ... 22&sp=true
or
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/09/ ... 22&sp=true

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: bear creek burnout On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:31 pm

It's the population centers in and near Philly and Pitt where he's winning. If the electoral college went by counties he'd lose by massive margin. Most of PA is rural. He's another double talker, he doesn't mind dropping the fact he grew up here in "Hard coal" country and knows miners....


Between Hillary & Biden it seems Scranton and the whole "coal region" seem to be the epicenter of the campaign. Since we're the "Saudi Arabia of energy" in terms of our rich coal deposits you'd think one of these mental midgets would use it to their advantage instead of bashing coal....even clean coal.....

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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Rex On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:08 pm

This has been an interesting thread and some good points. I just wish one of these candidates would visit a mine or a coal plant that produces electricity (maybe they have and I missed it). I am disappointed with Biden's statement but not surprised. It wont surprise me if tomorrow he will be FOR coal plants. :P
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Re: Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:17 pm

Gore urges civil disobedience to stop coal plants


He's trying to find a way to keep himself relevant. Let's see him perform a few "acts of civil disobedience" first.

Doesn't look like he's missing any meals worrying about global warming.
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