Predictions For 11/4 Congressional Election

Since an election is the only true indication of the views of the American people & since the Congressional races will most accurately reflect the mood of the American voter, imo:
Anyone care to make any predictions:?
Is anyone here predicting Republicans will actually GAIN seats in Congress on 11/4?

Dev, inspite of your abject hatred of anything Republican.. there actually ARE voters out there that read, research and can turn aside the BS from the media. UNfortunately the Dems are great politicians.. they certainly are NOT great legislaters.. look at Richard's thread on the current banking crisis.

You may be correct, that because of an unpopular president,, [who DID attempt to get legislation passed to head-off the current disaster,,] the current president's party often takes a beating in the elections at the end of his term..

But Please don't confuse the newly elected Democrats as any form of verification of facts, truth or reality.. the voting masses are way too gullible,, just look at some of the elections.. I can't believe the Clinton got re-elected,, an obvious felon and outright liar.. anyway.

DON'T CONFUSE THE ELECTION RESULTS WITH REALITY, VALIDATION OF FACTS, OR THE TRUTH.. ONLY THE EFFECTS OF GOOD POLITICAL AD CAMPAIGNS.

Greg L

The voting public is just too ignorant and gullible.

GL

LsFarm wrote:Dev, inspite of your abject hatred of anything Republican.

I don't hate "anything Republican" Greg......What I hate is hypocrisy. I have never hidden the fact the my thinking is more towards Democratic ideals than Republican. (women's right to choose, universal health care, against "Trickle-Down" economics, etc) That being said, I think you'd admit that I also strongly support many commonly thought of as Republican views such as the right to defend yourself & family through the ownership of firearms, against socializing the debts of big business (current bailout bill) relying on yourself to make your life better (burning coal is a good example) & other such ideals that I think of as common sense, rather than the "property" of any political party.
If you are honest with yourself, you'd have to admit that today's Republican Party has been hijacked by the right wing, Neo-Cons of GW Bush's ilk, & bears(bares) little resemblance to real Republican ideals of smaller, less intrusive government & doing what's best for your country, rather than what's best for your corporate friends.
That's what I hate Greg........& HATE is too kind a word for it!

LsFarm wrote:But Please don't confuse the newly elected Democrats as any form of verification of facts, truth or reality..

A fair point. But if any party wins by a landslide, what it will prove is who the American voter blames for the current economic, moral, foreign policy & cultural failures that this country is enduring, & I stand by my prediction that the American voter blames the current crop of charlatans who call themselves Republicans, but in reality have no allegiance to anything but greed, hypocrisy & themselves. (I also don't agree with your thought that if the Republicans lose big time, that it is because an unfair, liberal media managed to fool the American voters. I think that is total BS.....I think the collective wisdom of the American voter is higher than you give them credit for)

Quote: What I hate is hypocrisy unquote.

I find the Dems to be far greater hipocrits than the Reps.. one reason I'm 99% a Republican...

Just listen to the current rhetoric: 'the failed Bush economic policies'.. etc ad.nauseum.. then read Richards topic on the facts behind the Reps attempts to head off the bank and mortgage disaster. All blocked mostly by the Dems... like I said the Dems are poor legislators.. [obviously that's my opinon, easliy refuted I'm sure].

Anyway,, back outside to get some work done..

Greg L

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Devil505 wrote:women's right to choose, universal health care

Let me get this straight "a woman's right to choose & universal health care" are more important to you than "the right to defend yourself & family through the ownership of firearms, [size=200]against socializing[/size] the debts of big business (current bailout bill) relying on yourself to make your life better (burning coal is a good example) & other such ideals that you think of as common sense which you admit are "Republican views"?

spc wrote:Let me get this straight "a woman's right to choose & universal health care" are more important to you than "the right to defend yourself & family through the ownership of firearms, against socializing the debts of big business (current bailout bill) relying on yourself to make your life better (burning coal is a good example) & other such ideals that you think of as common sense which you admit are "Republican views"?

Sorry Stephen......I have no clue what you are asking me here???? I don't remember quantifying the importance of my beliefs??

& please do not twist/torture my words like this: "which you admit are "Republican views"?"

My exact words were:..."I also strongly support many commonly thought of as Republican views such as the right to defend yourself & family through the ownership of firearms, against socializing the debts of big business (current bailout bill) relying on yourself to make your life better (burning coal is a good example) & other such ideals that I think of as common sense, rather than the "property" of any political party....."which has a totally different meaning than what you are trying to pretend I said. Twisting words into a different meaning is an underhanded attempt at deception which Bush & McCain are past masters of, & one of the reasons I have no respect for them.

I'm sorry but do you think, "the right to defend yourself & family through the ownership of firearms, against socializing the debts of big business (current bailout bill) relying on yourself to make your life better (burning coal is a good example) & other such ideals that I think of as common sense", are in fact Republican views?

The examples you gave for leaning left were "a woman's right to choose & universal health care" which must be of great importance to you. Not knocking it though.

No twisting here.

spc wrote:I'm sorry but do you think, "the right to defend yourself & family through the ownership of firearms, against socializing the debts of big business (current bailout bill) relying on yourself to make your life better (burning coal is a good example) & other such ideals that I think of as common sense", are in fact Republican views?

No I don't think they are Republican views.....I think they are Common Sense views.
(what I actually said was that they are commonly thought of as Republican views......Not meaning that they are, in fact Republican views....That in fact they are common sense views. That is what I said & that has a totally different meaning.

Devil505 wrote:many commonly thought of as Republican views

Got it, many think of them as Republican views just not you.

Having some fun here,, I see Dicks foot hovering over his mouth. so I have to try to give it a push,,, so here goes:

Dick you are saying or coming very close to saying that the 'commonly thought of as Republican views' are in fact COMMON SENSE.. I translate that to menaing that you think Republicans use common sense and the Democrats DO NOT !!

Greg L

LsFarm wrote:Dick you are saying or coming very close to saying that the 'commonly thought of as Republican views' are in fact COMMON SENSE.. I translate that to menaing that you think Republicans use common sense and the Democrats DO NOT !!

To be honest Greg, I don't much abide by any political party anyway. They are both useful for fund raising purposes almost exclusively & have almost ceased to have meaningful party platforms any more.. Each party is now subdivided by liberal & conservative factions who vie for power & I simply pick & choose which ideas I like & which I don't, & vote for the candidate I like the most. There are many aspects of each party that I agree with & many I don't. Labeling something as Democratic or Republican is really just silly in 2008......It just serves to divide us further & doesn't help either side.
So, if believing you have the right to carry a gun & defend yourself is Republican....Then I am Republican
If believing that a woman who is raped & gets pregnant, should have the right to abort that pregnancy is a Democratic view....Then I am a Democrat.