Bottom of the Coal Bin

Bottom of the Coal Bin

PostBy: kirk On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:50 am

Finally got the bottom yesterday. That means I have used 3 1/2 tons of rice coal so far. I've got another a 1200 lbs. in 5 gallon buckets. Started burning at the beginning of November and have burned constantly other than 1 week in January while on vacation. That's all heat and hot water. Cleaned out all the fines/dust at the bottom. I'm ready to pickup 3 1/2 more tons as soon as the price drops. I'm considering driving north to see the coal man. Where is your yard located and when do your summer prices typically start? My pickup bed will hold 1.75 tons and I have a trailer that will hold another 1.75 tons.
kirk
 

PostBy: ktm rider On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:05 pm

1,200 lbs. in five gallon buckets ???
Noww that is alot of buckets !!!
ktm rider
 
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PostBy: lime4x4 On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:10 pm

not really that's around 27 buckets of coal..I usually can get 45lbs in a bucket
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PostBy: kirk On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:15 pm

You must have bigger 5 gallon buckets in PA. My 5 gallon buckets hold 35 lbs. :lol: so its in 34 buckets. I'm not sure how you weighed yours but I took a full bucket of rice coal to my dogs vet office and weighed it on his electronic scale. Also if you calculate the area of the bucket and use the figure for what a cubic ft of coal weighs, it comes out real close. A ton fits in 57 buckets.
kirk
 

Re: Bottom of the Coal Bin

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:12 pm

kirk wrote: Where is your yard located and when do your summer prices typically start? My pickup bed will hold 1.75 tons and I have a trailer that will hold another 1.75 tons.


No yard, bulk delivery only in ther 507 area code which basically encompasses NEPA.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

PostBy: lime4x4 On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:07 pm

kirk u are correct...It seems my buckets are a little bigger then the normal 5gal bucket. My wife is a manager of McDoalds and she brings home the buckets they get there pickles in and i weighed a full bucket of rice coal once on are digital bath scale and it came out to just under 45lbs when fully filled to the top.Also when i take my van with 20 buckets to the coal yard fill them up and get weighed it always comes out to around 900lb
lime4x4
 

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:14 pm

Keep in mind the volume can vary slightly depending on the coal (some is more dense than others) or the size of the coal. Rice coal needs more space than Nut. In a bucket you probably won't see much difference but over a whole truckload it can be quite a bit.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

PostBy: Mlou On: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:08 am

Don't meant to sound dumb, but why do you need 27 buckets of coal sitting around? I have 1 bucket sitting by my stove, waiting to be used. After using it, I refill it so the next load can dry out a little. Don't mean to be nosey, just wondering why, seems like so much unnecessary work.
Mlou
 

PostBy: kirk On: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:20 am

My coal bin will only hold 3 1/2 tons. The five gallon buckets are actually a very convenient and compact way to store coal. You can stack them 5-6 high so that in a fairly small footprint, you can store alot of coal. I have them stacked 3 deep from the basement wall, 6 high. That's how I stored it before I built the coal bin. I had enough buckets to store 1 ton. Now I use them for my extra supply. Once I've emptied my coal bin, I know I've burned 3 1/2 tons and evey bucket I use after that is an additonal 35 lbs. It helps my track how much coal I use. Might sound dumb but it works for me.
kirk
 

PostBy: Mlou On: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:48 pm

kirk,
Hope you didn't think I was saying that what your are doing is dumb, I didn't mean that at all! I said I felt dumb not understanding the buckets. I actually buy my coal bagged, so I avoid all storage issues. Bagged might cost a little more $$, but makes up for that in my time & storage space.
Mlou
 

PostBy: kirk On: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:44 pm

No, not at all. Besides, I agree it does sound alittle odd to have all those buckets but I had access to them and I found it worked well. Also, the 35 lbs. is a pretty managable weight for me and they stacked so well.
kirk
 

PostBy: Oo-v-oO On: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:30 am

NEPAForum Admin wrote:Keep in mind the volume can vary slightly depending on the coal (some is more dense than others) or the size of the coal. Rice coal needs more space than Nut. I


You meant that the other way around, right?

Larger pieces would make for bigger voids between them, thus less weight by volume, correct?
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PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:43 am

Oo-v-oO wrote:
Larger pieces would make for bigger voids between them, thus less weight by volume, correct?


No what I said is exactly what I meant. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but that's the way it is. Just for example a load of stove which is the largest size coal I deliver will be just about level in the box. Barley even with it's higher water content will barely fit on the truck. Volume wise it would appear to look 1/4 - 1/2 a ton.

Nut and pea are about the same, it's the rice for the most part that takes up more space. Volume wise it would look like about 1/4 of a ton over a 5 ton load. My guess is that although you have larger spaces between the nut you also have more area that is dense product. The rice has more surface area to produce the spaces.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

PostBy: Oo-v-oO On: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:39 pm

Huh. Not what I would have expected.
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