higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: WoodButcher On: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:34 pm

hey guys.

any upgrade suggestions for my baker stove blower? heres a link to the style and dimensions.


style : http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/I ... /2C915.jpg

dimensions under model 4c442 DAYTON BLOWER :
http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/dayton_shaded_pole_blower_dimens.htm
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:03 pm

I would not go to a higher CFM than what's on it now unless you must have more heat output than your unit can make now. Pushing more air through it will only blow your heat up the chimney.

EDIT: This response is for the combustion draft blower, didn't know it was a circulator fan.
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: SemperFi On: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:02 pm

Wood butcher, I assume that your baker stove is a batch fired stove and you would like to wash more heat off of the stove. I have purchased from walmart two small 10" fans for $8 dollars each that I place pointing at glancing angles to the sides of the stove. It is hard to beat the washing effect of two fans on low,I cant even hear them running. If you dont want to look at fans on the floor then the cheapest place I have found squirl cage fans is granger. I run the blower on my stove when I go to bed, it works good but it is a little loud to be around all day.
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: WoodButcher On: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:19 am

Semper ,

ill try to do that instead of getting another $$ blower. the ones im looking at are around 175-210$ ! i paid 300$ for the stove so i dont think so. also the one i have on it is a Dayton blower that says 3020rpm , so thats not too bad(est. 120cfm?) . the only problem with your small fan idea is mine is an insert with only 9" hangin out of the masonry . ill try though . thx
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: SemperFi On: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:01 pm

Wood butcher, you could face a fan at the front glass of the insert. Glass radiats heat much better than steel. $300 insert, wow, good for you bud.
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: WoodButcher On: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:06 am

Thanks Semper,

i was told by my brother(who turned me on to this forum) that bakers are nice, and i have a masonry cutout large enough to fit it. had to travel 4hrs each way from cleveland to state college PA though... hope it was worth it. have a couple cords of pignut hickory and sugar maple to fool around with when its time.

heres a pic of it. im replacing the steel eagle with glass rectangular window. figure itll add to the aura of the stove and , as you said, radiate heat better.
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: orvis On: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:30 pm

Look at surplus.



Lots of choices
The prices here are good but shipping is sometimes high.
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: SemperFi On: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:33 pm

Yep thats a Baker if I ever saw one. Built like a battle ship but a little heaver, glad I didnt have to move it. Baker stoves have to be the heaviest built stoves on the market. Some folks think Harmon stoves are the stoutist but Baker beats them hands down. You will be very pleased with the insert. I bet you will be pleased with the blower in the insert as it is. If there was a real advantage to a stronger fan then one would assume that it would have been designed into the stove already. Blowing air over ( through ) a stove faster or with more volume does not change the airs ability to absorb the heat ( washing ) faster, it just moves more air and makes more noise. Measure the air temp on a car heater vent on low and then on high and you will see what I mean or at least belive to be true. Cool insert, Bakers are a cut above. :D
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Re: higher cfm blower? squirrel cage?

PostBy: WoodButcher On: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:34 am

thanks semper ,
i seem to think it was worth the trip, but my two buddies who came along to help didnt! i bought em a few beers afterwards and then things were all better.
besides Pennsylvania's trees change colors earlier than ours and it was quite a spectacle.

ill keep the original blower. makes sense with the car blower theory.
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