The Republicans want to take control of the banking system in this country and regulate it (and it does need some level of regulation now, because it is so corrupt.
This is the only point on which we seem to disagree. I think I can argue rather convincingly that the bankers control everything that the republicans and the democrats legislate.
James Madison, quotes about Rothschild:
History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance
John F. Hylan, quotes about Rothschild:
The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.
Carroll Quigley, quotes about Rothschild:
The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.
Mayer Amschel Rothschild, quotes about Rothschild:
Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.
Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild, quotes about Rothschild:
I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.
Alan Greenspan, quotes about Rothschild:
In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. ... This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard.
That last one was written before Greenspan fell to the dark side.
agreed ... it's none of their business, but when it is pushed on our kindergarteners in an attempt to desensitize them, then that's a different story altogether.
This is another symptom of socialization, and it was brought about by corporate giants like Andrew Carnegie. Prior to the 20th century, there were few if any public schools. People had to pay the school marm directly if they wanted their children to be educated. Today we have public schools and very little choice as to what our children will be taught because because the schools will get our tax dollars no matter what we say. Furthermore state and federal mandates dictate what will be taught in the classroom. Schools need to be very localized institutions, but don't tell that to the government.
The Pledge of Allegiance didn't have "under God" added until the early 1950's. The 1st 3 changes to the Pledge were to clarify it's original meaning, not add meaning, which "under God" does. The majority of challenges to compulsory participation in the Pledge of Allegiance revolve around the "under God" phrase -- not someone's loyalty or love of their country. Nowhere does it say you must belive in God (or a god) to be a proud American, and I would prefer the Pledge not have a religious overtone to it.
Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist
. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897)http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm
efo141 wrote:I dont want my president waiting for a answer from God on a important decision for the country.
Nor do I. I hate when any of them inject religion and morals into politics. Would you rather to derive your rights from jackals like Bush, Klinton, Obama and McCain or a fictional entity whom the government has no power over. Would you prefer to give up your rights as we have been over the past 70 years? Do you like the fact that your children are growing up in an omnipotent police state? Or do you think that I am over the line, and that things are just peachy.
swva wrote:Gay marriage: in all the years that man has existed on this earth, there has never been gay marriage, but some in our society want it to be law now ... does that make it moral? The fact that, historically, gay marriage was not part of the mores of a society means that some level of moral precedence has been established. Precedence is surely something liberals will appreciate, since they use the precedence argument in Supreme Court cases all the time, right?
Gay marriage, I can't believe that people still argue over this stupid issue that is used by our corrupt politicians to divide and conquer. Marriage is between two people, and their god if they choose to believe in god. Tell me, why are we, as citizens mandated by the state to acquire a marriage license? Now marriage is between the state two people and their god. Why do you have to go to the state, ask permission, and pay a tax in order to marry the one you love? Those laws are socialist in and of themselves and they should all be abolished. The only reason the homos want to be able to marry is so that their spouse can collect on social programs. Gay marriage should be a completely mute argument for anyone who loves freedom. Isn't freedom what this country is supposed to be based on? Why should you give a damn about your fellow citizens personal choices so long as their choices harm no one?
What do you call nationalization of private business' ?
In the 1930's and 1940's they called national socialist Nazis