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Post by hell fire » Sat. Oct. 11, 2008 8:51 pm

what plugs hook to what plug does anyone have original diagrams . bought stove used have dial controler with it is that for feed or convection fan. I have a ll pionere with coaltrol and love it. but this a diffrent ball game for garage. please advise.

 
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Post by Matthaus » Sat. Oct. 11, 2008 9:04 pm

Since you only have one rheostat I would recommend hooking that to the convection fan and running the stoker/combustion motor at full speed (plug it into the wall). Adjust the feed rate (the red tab on a threaded rod at the back under the hopper) to get the size fire you need to keep the garage at a comfy temp. IMO This works better because the combustion fan (which is run by the stoker motor) will provide sufficient air to minimize unburnt coal.

 
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Post by hell fire » Sat. Oct. 11, 2008 9:16 pm

thanks mathaus seen that red tab on rod on feed do you turn that to set feed all the time or what.

 
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Post by crochunisclan » Sat. Oct. 11, 2008 9:57 pm

I have a Kast Console II. It seems we may have the same mechanism. if you send me a PM with an E-mail, I will scan the paper work I have and send it to you.


 
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Post by Matthaus » Sat. Oct. 11, 2008 11:40 pm

hell fire wrote:thanks mathaus seen that red tab on rod on feed do you turn that to set feed all the time or what.
Since you will be heating your garage you will probably set it for each increment of colder weather. to start of you will probably find that you can adjust for a minimum fire and keep it warm enough. Once you get the copy of the manual you will see that it's simple to adjust and keep running, and of course lots of folks are running those older Alaska stoves. Of course in time you will probably want to purchase a Coal-trol for it and then the garage will stay whatever temp you set. :)

 
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Post by pawiseguy » Tue. Oct. 14, 2008 1:14 pm

Matthaus,
Would you be kind enough to tell what the measurement should be from the lobe to the cap nut for max. burn? The instructions say 7/8 " between the lobe to the cap nut is a full burn. Is a full burn equal to max burn? I'm experimenting with lobe adjustments, cumbustion fan speeds for heat output and coal burn efficiency. I know you've done a lot of experimenting on your own with this.After I figure this tri-burner thing out, I plan to get a Coal Troal. Any hints your willing to give on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 
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Post by Matthaus » Tue. Oct. 14, 2008 5:08 pm

pawiseguy wrote:Matthaus, Would you be kind enough to tell what the measurement should be from the lobe to the cap nut for max. burn? The instructions say 7/8 " between the lobe to the cap nut is a full burn. Is a full burn equal to max burn? I'm experimenting with lobe adjustments, combustion fan speeds for heat output and coal burn efficiency. I know you've done a lot of experimenting on your own with this.After I figure this tri-burner thing out, I plan to get a Coal Troal. Any hints your willing to give on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
7/8" is a good place to start for max burn (full burn is same thing), with full speed on stoker motor/combustion fan the fire should be within an inch or so of the end of the grate. from there you can increase or reduce the stroke (gap measurement) to get the desired fire. Also the min fire can be done the same way, set the stoker motor/combustion fan to mid :D speed and make note of where the stroke adjustment is set when you have a sustained fire about a half inch wide. This setting takes a little time to settle in, run it for a minimum of a couple hours on the setting you think is the final one to verify the fire won't go out. Armed with the two measurements for both min and max fire you can always go back to those when needed.

Then when you get the Coal-Trol you will set those two setting and from then on never touch the stove again (unless of course you want to play). :D

 
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Post by pawiseguy » Tue. Oct. 14, 2008 7:45 pm

Thanks for the info. You saved me hrs. of fustration.... :? I mean fun.....


 
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Post by CoalHeat » Tue. Oct. 14, 2008 8:44 pm

Also, I have found that the difference between the lowest burn and the full burn can be as little as 4 rotations of the "red tab" on the threaded rod that goes from the carpet to the stoker motor. From the setting I use for "low" I will increase the width of the burning area on the grate according to the amount of heat needed-sometimes 1 turn, sometimes 2. The most I ever moved it was 4 turns, that gives a "full" or "max" burn, you don't want it set so high that burning coal falls off the end of the grate, that would be overfiring.

 
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Post by pawiseguy » Wed. Oct. 15, 2008 8:26 am

Wood'nCoal,
I've been experimenting with the lobe settings and fan speeds. I've gone as far as 3 rotations down from "full burn'' with combustion/ fan speed around half. Seemed I was getting all the coal burned with low heat output. Do you keep you combustion/ fan speed at max, and only move the lobe, or do you adjust that as well?
Thanks for responding. All thoughts, comments, directions are very appreciated.

 
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Post by CoalHeat » Wed. Oct. 15, 2008 9:22 am

Combustion fan speed at max...all the time. I have a separate combustion fan. I adjust the feed rate only.

If you are getting complete burning of the coal you must have the good stuff! I would suggest a separate combustion fan running full speed at all times to get the best burn possible. I do get some unburned pieces, but I suspect it's "bone". It's Lenig's-deep mined-the heat output is great and it responds fast to changes in the feed rate.

 
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Post by pawiseguy » Wed. Oct. 15, 2008 11:46 am

I'm burning Blaschak coal. (I have 3 more ton being delivered in the next few days.) I've only run the stove a few hrs. So, I'm still figuring it out yet. I did read about adding an additional fan for complete burn, but didn't try to do that yet. (Trying not to get ahead of myself.) I installed the stove this past summer replacing my wood stove. Built the coal bin the past few weeks. The coal will be delivered in the next few days. Now I plan to work on adding the fan and coal trol in the coming months. This site has been such a wealth of information for me... I think I'm getting that addiction to coal people keep talking about...

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