Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:19 pm

The Republican Party is flooding the phone lines with this:

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ManvViFZ ... t.com/2008 [/youtube]

1. In your opinion, is this an intelligent way to gain the independent votes that McCain desperately needs, or is it more likely to anger/disgust them?
2. Is it an HONEST warning to American voters to say Obama "Worked Closely" with a domestic terrorist & not tell be that they worked closely on a charity, not bombings, or is it an attempt to deceive?
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:35 pm

Desperate people do desperate things.
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Mike Wilson On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:23 pm

Devil, I'm sure you're a fine guy and all, but Christmas' sake, give it a rest!
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:25 pm

In my decidely anti-Obama opinion, anything and I really mean it, anything to keep this slimy come from nowhere charlatan from getting in office and makeing our current situation into the next great world wide Depression, and making America into a third world, socialist regime where the citizens are powerless and taxed to an extent that makes todays tax rates look like sales tax...

I wish the Repubs would pull out the stops and sink his poitical ship..

I fear, to the point of being seriously depressed for our future under the socialist democrat puppet being groomed for office.. just who is going to pull his strings?? Some of the same people who pulled this from-nothing to a presidential candidate from obscurity??

Shaking in my boots.. I greatly fear his election.

Greg L

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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: xackley On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:34 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXIoIVMMPv0&NR=1
I like this version better.

LSFarms, so you are in the $250,000+ income bracket who would be taxed 3% more on earning exceeding 250K?

Wasn't it a Republican the just made the biggest move toward socialism in US history.
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: spc On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:53 pm

No, this is "Smart Politics". :rofl:

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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:04 pm

Mike Wilson wrote:Devil, I'm sure you're a fine guy and all, but Christmas' sake, give it a rest!


Just 18 more days to go Mike. :nana: :devil:
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:07 pm

spc wrote:No, this is "Smart Politics". :rofl:




Glad you agree Stephen.....Look at the polls. ;)
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: spc On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:20 am

Devil505 wrote:Look at the polls.
Just shows how well informed voters are:



And I guess that third question is a tough One:

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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: pvolcko On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:52 am

Devil505 wrote:1. In your opinion, is this an intelligent way to gain the independent votes that McCain desperately needs, or is it more likely to anger/disgust them?


Like a distressingly large amount of the McCain campaign messaging and McCain's own debate performance, it is poorly executed. Their points are unpointed, their rhetoric as mediocre and Obama's is vacuous. The method (robocall) is okay so long as it isn't overdone. The underlying points and intended message is righteous and can resonate with many people when it is presented properly, but the script of this call leaves much to be desired. What they're doing is intelligent, how they're doing it missing the mark though.

2. Is it an HONEST warning to American voters to say Obama "Worked Closely" with a domestic terrorist & not tell be that they worked closely on a charity, not bombings, or is it an attempt to deceive?


While it is decidedly an opinion and subjective to say he "worked closely" with Ayers, it is a fair assessment of the facts (and thus honest) and within reason to state it in this call, particularly as some additional context was presented following the use of that phrase. As I said above, I would have written the script differently to try and put a finer point on what is specifically objectionable about this relationship and why it matters. But this is more a matter of my distaste for the style and lack of pointedness in this script, not a matter of trying to make it "more honest" than this was.
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:57 am

pvolcko wrote:As I said above, I would have written the script differently to try and put a finer point on what is specifically objectionable about this relationship and why it matters. But this is more a matter of my distaste for the style and lack of pointedness in this script, not a matter of trying to make it "more honest" than this was.



You don't honestly see this ( by saying Obama "Worked Closely" with Ayers but not pointing out that what they worked closely on was a charity....not bomb making) as a further attempt at deception by the McCain camp? .......HONESTLY Paul?

( McCain should be ashamed of himself for using the same sleazy tactics & the same sleazy advisers that GW Bush used against McCain in the 2000 primaries............Inexcusable!)
McCain should have said "I wasn't George Bush,.......... but I am now!")
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:13 am

You don't honestly see this ( by saying Obama "Worked Closely" with Ayers but not pointing out that what they worked closely on was a charity....not bomb making) as a further attempt at deception by the McCain camp? .......HONESTLY Paul?



I did like how McCain had no follow up comments after Obama mentioned that there were 3 or 4 other guys there who were presidents of some of the best colleges in this country who are shaping the minds of the future. Why are they not terrorist's too? Same meeting with the same Bill Ayers?
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Mike Wilson On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:36 am

Devil505 wrote:Just 18 more days to go Mike. :nana: :devil:


And OH, I just can't WAIT ! :band:
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:51 am

Mike Wilson wrote:And OH, I just can't WAIT ! :band:


Just consider it part of your education............ that I'm providing at no extra cost to my fellow coal brothers! :secret: :devil:
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Re: Is This Legitimate & Is It Smart Politics?

PostBy: Mike Wilson On: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:07 am

Serenity now!
Devil505 -------> :chop:


With three degrees and a former work address of the Capitol Building, I can honestly say that I don't want any more education. I'm done. Talk coal, that, I'm interested in. Politics, pffft.
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