hand fired coal stove in fireplace

hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: M1KEMASS On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:08 pm

Hi guys - I'm having building inspector problems - coal stove intalled into an existing fireplace - the stove sits about 3 inches from the edge of the hearth. I knew he'd wants 16 inches in front of the stove, so I purchased a stove board/hearth extension. He does not want to give approval because it is moveable, and because it's a field stone fireplace - he said he wanted the stoveboard cut to the contour of the stone - which will void the UL approval if cut - he's concerned that the radiant heat from the stove will go between the hearth extension and the stone hearth (there are slight spaces - less than 1/2 inch). My quesion is - is it safe - would you be comfortable with that setup, and if not - what would you recommend. His idea is to build a 6" concrete reinforced slab (of course you must remove the plywood under the slab after the concrete cures). What are your thoughs - is this guy paranoid - he said he's never approved a coal stove and doesn't know anything about them.
M1KEMASS
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Coal Size/Type: nut

Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:20 pm

I would just cut the stoveboard the way he wants. Who cares about voiding the warranty?

Make the inspector happy so he'll sign off on your installation. ;)



(It's like the old question asking "What is the law?"......Answer being "The law is whatever the judge says it is!" )

The building inspector is the judge! :lol:
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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:45 pm

OO No
I agreeing with the devil again.
Do what he asks!


How many posts until the trianglation get me and the dem know where I am.

How about stacking some fancy blocks in front the hearth until its level.




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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: coalvet On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:51 pm

I would be more concerned with a hot ember falling between the crack than the radiant heat from that area of the stove. You might consider a fireproof hearthmat that would cover the hearth and the hearth extension.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane Model 404
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Other Heating: NG Boiler

Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: Razzler On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:00 pm

M1keass, Pictures of the hearth and stove may help come up with some ideas. ;)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: M1KEMASS On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:54 pm

Here's a picture of the stove in place - fired up.
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here is a picture of the gap the building inspector is concerned about
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Any suggestions would be appreciated.
M1KEMASS
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Coal Size/Type: nut

Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:06 pm

Have a mason extend the fieldstone hearth or add a tile hearth in front. I'd be nervous as an inspector signing off of that too with that carpet right there.
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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:15 pm

coalkirk wrote:Have a mason extend the fieldstone hearth or add a tile hearth in front. I'd be nervous as an inspector signing off of that too with that carpet right there.


I agree....Burning embers routinely will fall right where that little gap is. (I'll bet you wont go a week before embers land there) Looks pretty dangerous to me too!
I would never dare operate a stove with that gap right there. The inspector is not being picky.
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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: Razzler On: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:51 pm

I agree with Coalkirk and Devil thats a accident waiting to happen. If you could secure the hearth extension to the floor then maybe you can fill the gap with fire rated culk :?: :?:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: M1KEMASS On: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:12 am

Thanks for the feedback guys - I'll get working on it this week.
M1KEMASS
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Coal Size/Type: nut

Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: Self Reliance On: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:42 pm

Hello MIKEMASS,

I am having some building inspector problems as well. Would you mind sending me some pictures or a description of how you are venting the stove? I am going up an existing clay-lined fireplace. Thanks.
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Re: hand fired coal stove in fireplace

PostBy: M1KEMASS On: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:51 pm

Hello Self Reliance,

I don't have any pictures, but I purchased a flexible stainless steel 6" liner that goes up the firplace chimney and has a cap on the outsidehttp://cgi.ebay.com/6-X-20-Stainless-Steel-Chimney-Flue-Liner-Kit_W0QQitemZ280269178831QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20598QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262. What specificaly do you want to know about? I also created a blockoff plate: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/making_a_block_off_plate/ There's a barometric damper off the back of the stove that's connected to a stainless steel T with a cap on the bottom, the stove on the side, and the stainless steel liner out the top.
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