moving a 350 efm

moving a 350 efm

PostBy: Salemcoal On: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:06 pm

Looking for tips on moving an efm 350 out of a cellar. Thanks
Salemcoal
 
Stove/Furnace Make: harmonsf150
Stove/Furnace Model: alaskachaning3

Re: moving a 350 efm

PostBy: franpipeman On: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:36 pm

well all cellars are different
some basics
use lifting device chain falls coma along engine jacks
use outside cellar doors
put board on stairs with comalong to "slide " boiler up
metal would enhance sliding
span multiple joist to create lifting points with bolts and jacks"verticle support
remember the gear oil in the stoker , it spills ugly
dont break your back use your head
lack bolts can hold a lot properly planed and installed
use carpet dollies or pipe for rollers

user levers

work like a egyptian building a pyramid
franpipeman
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: efm 520 stoker fitzgibbons pressure vessel
Hand Fed Coal Stove: harman, russo
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: moving a 350 efm

PostBy: stoker-man On: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:52 pm

Was this 350 for sale on the forum a few days ago? That ad seems to have disappeared.

If the 520 boiler weighs 800#, I'd guess that the 350 weighs about 600#, but only coal berner knows the answer to that question.

I have an older engine hoist in my garage and the legs are wide enough to get around the base, so that would be my choice for lifting a boiler onto a base or off a base. I also like PA Dealer's idea of drilling two holes for a pipe in the joists.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: moving a 350 efm

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:03 am

Well Stoker man The AP- 520-1 boiler weighs 750 lbs and the Sq top AP- 350 boiler weigh 575 lbs Now maybe the new DF 520 boiler weigh 800 but not the older AP-1 520 and being the AP-350 where made around the same time the weight
on them are right out of the EFM forum AP-245R - 67 and also being I moved or Pick up 1 2 or 3 on any given weekend
I know how to get them out of basements and what they weigh and 95 % of them where made in the 50's and 60 s
and last month I help get 4 Sq top 350 and 1 round top boiler and will be picking up another round top 350 next week
I know how much they weigh as well And On Saturday if I did not do the Tour I would of been helping picking up a 700 which weighs a total of 1833 lbs would you like me to break the weight down for you and size Jusk for kicks :P Ps did you see this thread on moving a boiler ot of a basement http://nepacrossroads.com/post71026.html I used the the floor joist trick
when i did mine Plus alot of the older house in my area had bars already in the Joists Mine did the old timer used that meathod alot when they put them in or out and I will be using it next week when We go get the other Round top boiler 350

AP-700
Boiler 1100 lbs

Base 226 lbs

stoker 375 lbs

Jackets 132 lbs

Total Weight 1833 lbs

Base size without Jackets

42 3/4 " long 29 2/4" wide 23 1/2 " high

Boiler with out Jackets

42" long 29 1/2 wide 33" tall
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: moving a 350 efm

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:11 pm

Put a brand new 700 in probably 15/20 years ago the basement was probably 5 1/2 feet tall to the joists. No room to chain fall or comealong off the joists. Had to keep blocking up each end of the boiler untill i raised it high enough to use a couple pipe rollers to roll it on the base. That was on of the heaviest units I ever had to install. It beat the heck out of me and my crew. Now im actually looking for a used 700 for a customer. Installed a new df 520 today three zone,it replaced a 1975 losch oil burner,which is one heavy unit to get out. Only eight steps to get it out of the basement :(

R Y
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: moving a 350 efm

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:03 pm

Come on PA the 700 only weighs 1833 lbs 1100 of that is the boiler :shock: yea lots of small basements around here
I always step back and think how the old timers stuck them in and yes the old losch boilers are bears did you ever move
losch coal boiler like the 4 ' grate model wow that is a work out close to 2 tons anyway If you are still looking for a 700
let me know one was picked up on Saturday but already have two guys on it but There will be another one coming in about a week or two just have to go get it in between Picking up a few 520 and 4 350 3 SQ top boilers and one Round one then the 700 PM me for more info Oh did you ever use the car or truck tires trick when you do not have enough room in the small basement lay the tires down next to the boiler and flip the boiler off the base onto the tires I have not dunn it
myself but the guy i help out has a few times says it works but you would not be doing that in a nice basement most of
the old ones around here are dirt floors the planks and pipes work the best if you do not have the heigth over the boiler for the chain hoist with pipe in the floor joist Talk to you later
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: moving a 350 efm

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:48 am

Yes, I do use the tire method,I lay the tires on the side of the unit and push it over on to them.The boiler splits off nice and controlable,if there's room in the cellar.I'll check about 700. Thanks JC .



RY
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker