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Devil505 · Post by **Devil505** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2008 5:06 pm

What Obama is proposing is along the lines of health care for civilian government employees (like Congressmen) not military. Government help getting it, not running it.
If it's good enough for our President & Congressmen......What's wrong with that?

Post by **coaledsweat** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2008 8:34 pm

Nothing if you are paying for it.

spc · Post by **spc** » Fri. Oct. 31, 2008 11:23 pm

"In Congress, we have a red button, a green button and a yellow button, alright. Green means 'yes,' red means 'no,' and yellow means you're a chicken *censored*. And the last thing we need in the White House, in the oval office, behind that big desk, is some chicken who wants to push this yellow button."

BugsyR · Post by **BugsyR** » Sat. Nov. 01, 2008 10:23 am

Stephen...sorry from straying off your topic but I have got to know....

Dick...you didn't answer my questions you strayed from it...you have several times in the past in several different threads called the governments health care "Socialist" and the military's health care as being something very close to outstanding.

How can having Blue Cross health insurance be something close to Socialist...especially if the government is not in control of the health care system?

I live in an area where there are a multitude of Government employees and quite a few of my friends here are either still working or are retired. All of them select or selected a health insurance. All of them pay monthly. Some select lesser coverage than others due to not being able to afford a better coverage. Some don't have dental coverage...taking a chance or feel they are just better off paying out of pocket as problems arise. Vision...another decision to make...pay monthly or pay out of pocket. One thing I do not know...under their new retirement system, will they lose their health insurance or be allowed to keep it. Once again....NONE of their health benefits sound anything like SOCIALISM?!?!

Also, I know in the past government employees had better benefits...the retirement systems are different now also...what use to be CSRS is now FERS. Easy to look up online for explanation just google civil service retirement or federal employee retirement.

As for the President of the US of A....I hope and pray that he or she, no matter what party, has the country's best medical coverage whenever he/she needs it. Even if my taxes have to be raised for it.

Devil505 · Post by **Devil505** » Sat. Nov. 01, 2008 11:55 am

BugsyR wrote:Dick...you didn't answer my questions you strayed from it...you have several times in the past in several different threads called the governments health care "Socialist" and the military's health care as being something very close to outstanding.

I think we are getting lost in the weeds here Mike. The civilian health care system that I, The President, all government employees & members of Congress have is not Socialist in it's operation.( It is run by private industry like Blue Cross) What is Socialist is it universal availability & affordablity to all government employees.
What Obama proposes is the same system.....simply universal ACCESS to private insurance companies on an affordable basis.

No one is looking to set up a government bureaucracy to compete with Blue Cross....We just want access to it.
As fr as the quality of military health care vs GI civilian, I have no knowledge or opinion of it, but that has no relevance to this discussion.