Coal Tax

Coal Tax

PostBy: danzig On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:49 am

Sen. Obama is proposing to heavily tax coal (dirty fuels) and Natural gas (this is a pretty clean fuel) in support of wind and solar power. So if he wins break out your wallet and pay the man (even more).
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:52 am

Right now there is no tax on coal. What is considered "heavy"?
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:52 am

nobama08
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:58 am

Here in NY, depends on the county, we pay 3-4% Sales tax on coal.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: danzig On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:03 am

This is all based on the upcoming emisions policy that is going to be passed in 2010 (and Obamas up coming tax and spend budget). Between taxes on non earth friendly fuels (coal nat. gas, oil), taxes on corporations and utility suppliers, everyting is going to go sky hi. This is to force the people of this country to have no choice or voice in what you do. People when this policy goes through you will not be able to burn wood or coal to supplement heat to your home. This is control at its finest. Add taking the second amendment away this is a no win for the people of this country.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:13 am

I'll stop burning coal when they pry my cold dead hands from my coal shovel! :lol:
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: jrn8265 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:13 am

"People when this policy goes through you will not be able to burn wood or coal to supplement heat to your home."

Explain this please. Higher tax on coal is one thing but this seems extreme.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:27 am

danzig wrote:Sen. Obama is proposing to heavily tax coal (dirty fuels) and Natural gas (this is a pretty clean fuel) in support of wind and solar power.


No he isn't. Just McCain BS....Turn off Fox News.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:02 pm

jrn8265 wrote:"People when this policy goes through you will not be able to burn wood or coal to supplement heat to your home."

Explain this please. Higher tax on coal is one thing but this seems extreme.


If California can control your thermostat by remote control, anything is possible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/11control.html
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: ashburnham55 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:05 pm

coalkirk wrote:I'll stop burning coal when they pry my cold dead hands from my coal shovel! :lol:


You're killing me !! laughing my a$$ off

NOBAMA-08
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:29 pm

coalkirk wrote:I'll stop burning coal when they pry my cold dead hands from my coal shovel! :lol:

X2
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: JohnMck On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:40 pm

If Obama is elected, you can count on uproven theories about Global Warming ,caused by Anthropogenic sources, becoming policy. bad science is just that.
Making policy decisions regarding how I heat my home, based on flawwed research, really burns my butt.
To me it just seems like another way to control us. Taxes are meant to be paid in order to fund the federal government, as bloated and as inefficient as it is.
Taxes are not meant to be used to regulate behavior that the government deems politically incorrect.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:22 am

Coal is already federally taxed at the mine to fund black lung benefits and reclamation of abandoned mines. Both worthwhile causes if all the money is applied to those issues. I believe its a percentage, probably in the neighborhood of $5 to $10 a ton.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: JohnMck On: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:08 am

yes, that is worthwhile. What bothers me, is the government using taxes to regulate my behavior. Like higher taxes on coal. Because liberals in this country don't want us burning coal, they'll tax it so it's not economically cometitive to use as a fuel.
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Re: Coal Tax

PostBy: Yanche On: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:14 am

Richard S. wrote:Coal is already federally taxed at the mine to fund black lung benefits and reclamation of abandoned mines. Both worthwhile causes if all the money is applied to those issues. I believe its a percentage, probably in the neighborhood of $5 to $10 a ton.
Here's a link to PA's method of funding mine reclamation.

http://www.depweb.state.pa.us/pubpartce ... 021408.pdf

It's a tough read but it looks like there was a $100 per acre fee collected on the active mine acreage plus a bonding requirement.
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