Windows 7 debuts

Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:01 am


http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/PDC_2008%3A_Microsoft_Debuts_Sleeker_Windows_7_on_a_Netbook
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: djackman On: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:41 am

If boot speed and useability reverts back to XP spec it may stop the bleeding in the home user market, but the bigger question is will corporate america adopt it? Microsoft continues to ignore the cost of retraining users and helpdesk staff to use the Vista interface.

We're starting to see some of the recent (1-2 years) Mac convert crowd getting turned off to Mac when they find out the cost of repairing a not-so-old Mac notebook. Suspect a lot of them may go back to Wintel systems if Windows 7 is more usable than Vista next upgrade cycle. Most of the "post-Vista" Mac converts I've met have the same basic reaction to Apple as some do to Vista - "it's ok". Never "great!" or "wow, why didn't I do this sooner!"

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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: Lumberjack On: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:50 pm

I gave up windows a few years ago.... I will never go back
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:46 am

it's tough if you have to choose. I use 3 operating systems, each depending on what I need to accomplish. Windows has it's shining areas just as the others do.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: gaw On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:30 am

I have a rather short list of programs I use. Windows XP works very well for me. My wife has Vista on a computer with same memory and slightly faster processor as mine and it is the slowest thing I have ever seen. I guess the newer processors with a ton of memory work better. I hope windows 7 is better because I don't want to ever have to use Vista if at all possible.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:41 pm

7 is an optimized Vista. It's what MS should have released to begin with.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:05 pm

gaw wrote: My wife has Vista on a computer with same memory and slightly faster processor as mine and it is the slowest thing I have ever seen. I guess the newer processors with a ton of memory work better.


If you disable the Aero interface I hear speeds dramatically increase, that of course makes it look like XP. :lol:

I've only used Vista a fw times and I liked it except for the slowness. Haven't had the pleasure of using it on a really fast machine which is what is needed.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:57 pm

You need 3-4 gb or ram and a decent video card and it'll run well on an older machine. Aero is off by default.

I've installed it on one of my desktops at work 3 times....and I've reverted back to XP each time...
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: djackman On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:57 pm

gaw wrote:My wife has Vista on a computer with same memory and slightly faster processor as mine and it is the slowest thing I have ever seen.


Supposedly turning off the agressive disk caching can help

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows- ... ows-vista/

Might be worth a try. Next Vista box that comes across our bench (that isn't getting upgraded to XP :D) I will try it.

Using one of the "alternate" security solutions eg AVG, Kapersky, etc can make a big difference. Memory/CPU hog antivirus programs take a huge toll on performance.

Fast video chipset (even if not running Aero), 2gb+ system memory are really bare minimum requirements for Vista. From what we're seeing the video subsystem can sometimes be more important than the CPU -integrated video chipsets are the worst offenders. PCI Express cards have dropped significantly in price - if you have a recent system that came with integrated video and an empty PCIe slot do the upgrade....

Vista will likely go down in history as Windows98ME version 2.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: Hunlock On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:14 pm

Great...another OS my printer won't work with........j/k
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:26 am

av8r wrote:7 is an optimized Vista. It's what MS should have released to begin with.



Vista is nothing more then another version of Windows 2000. A stepping stone for them to make money until they can get the real OS out to the public.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: av8r On: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:28 pm

Actually, the back end code is very different from 2000. We test with MS on a higher ed beta team and I can assure you, there is a significant difference.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:00 am

Av

I meant Vista is to windows 7 as how windows 2000 was to XP just a quick stepping stone before they come out with the real operating system. Windows 2000 was a buggy nightmare that they never fixed and Vista is and will be the same. Windows 7 will either be out next year or in 2010 depending on which Windows reports you choose to listen too. http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/07/micr ... ndows-7-a/
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:54 pm

We were pretty happy with 2000 server. Had over 100 machines using it in our data center. 2000 on a workstation wasn't a huge deal unless you wanted to do non-work stuff, but then it wasn't designed for that.
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Re: Windows 7 debuts

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:13 am

I have no experience with it on servers, just with people who had it on their home computers and had serious trouble getting it to run some types of software on it.
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