The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: CoalJockey On: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:17 pm

Foks....

We have one of these.... you talked about the hollow firebrick in the corners. Anyone know where to get these?

Ours will probably need to be relined next year or so.... and would appriciate any info about where to get those corner pieces.

Thanks
Tyler
CoalJockey
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 1300 & 520

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: dangit On: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:49 pm

CoalJockey , I have not found any source for the hollow corner firebricks. I assume any replacements need to be fabricated using furnance cement but making a template from an old firebrick would take some skill.
dangit
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 523

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: CoalJockey On: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:07 pm

Hey Dangit

That leads me to another question.... I guess I can assume the Warm Mornings are no longer made?

If that is so.... that is a shame. Ours has surely been a good one. I hope to continue using it if we can find the brick for it.

Grandfather bought it brand new.... for the scale house at the coal yard. Cant remember what year it was. Possibly the mid to late 1980's.

Thanks
Tyler
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Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 1300 & 520


Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: dangit On: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:43 pm

You are correct, the Locke Company is out of business and most parts are no longer available. My grandparents stove was made in 1982 and was used for a few years before being retired. Most of the firebricks are OK but I figure the day will come when some will need to be replaced too. I suppose I'll tinker around with fabricating a template for the hollow ones, as soon as I get time, or whenever one gets busted. HA!!!

What temp do you run your stove?
dangit
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 523

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:28 am

Hey guys look at the link below they have firebricks for warm morning stoves Not cheap but they got them


http://www.stovepartsunlimited.com/pricing/pdfs/2008_parts_pricing_retail_rev_09_02_2008.pdf
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


http://www.hearthstove.com/catalog.html call this place for parts
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
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Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: dangit On: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:06 am

coal berner is great source of information and invaluable help. On the 1st site listed the hollow firebrick for my stove is the WM5289R for $88 and looks like there are 12 in stock. Not cheap but they are available. These web sites don't come up when I've made a Google search. Wonder why?

Anyway, many thanks coal berner.
dangit
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 523

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: CoalJockey On: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:23 pm

Hey J.C.

Thanks for the tip. Gonna check that out for sure. Nice to know they can still be had. Man it sure is hard to slip one past you! :clap:

Dangit:

Im not too sure how hot we do run that stove.... never had a thermometer on it. Man its sure been a good one though. We always burnt hard pea in it but usually keep it pretty well banked down. I dont think we run it nearly as fast as we could.... but our scalehouse isnt very big. That little bugger will drive you out of there on the coldest day of the year. :lol:

Thanks
Tyler
CoalJockey
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 1300 & 520

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:23 pm

Well Coal some might get by me but I usually find them and respond Your welcome if you think that Pea coal puts out the heat try some Nut in it or Stove coal :shock: You won't beable to go inside :lol:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
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Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: coal berner On: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:28 pm

dangit wrote:coal berner is great source of information and invaluable help. On the 1st site listed the hollow firebrick for my stove is the WM5289R for $88 and looks like there are 12 in stock. Not cheap but they are available. These web sites don't come up when I've made a Google search. Wonder why?

Anyway, many thanks coal berner.

Sorry dangit I was going to post the order Number for you and coal but I forgot Thanks for the nice comment
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
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Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: dangit On: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:54 pm

OK - ole dangit has the Warm Morning loaded for another cold, windy night. Wanted to show a pic of the big chunks the size of melons this Warm Morning will burn. After the volatiles burn off the chunks swell, split open and burn cherry red to white hot with just a little draft. Flames and smoke are fairly low after the vols burn off. Nice blue flames are dancing around sometimes but mostly are yellow. No clinkers and a good burn down to a fine ash that is a very light brown color. Flue temps at the oval boot run from 250 to 350 with just a little draft. With 1/2 to 2/3 of a load the burn lasts 8 to 10 hours and no problems getting it fired up again.

Thanks to all who have helped with advice. Now, just wondering how to keep soot buildup to a minimum. I've read burning a little cardboard helps. Any ideas?
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 523

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:06 pm

TSP works decently well. just burn it hot for a few minutes every couple of days. or use an 8" pipe to the flue and it'll never build up enough to cause a problem. keeping the stove running constantly will also reduce soot buildup as a continuous fire is more efficient; a contant fire will also stress the firebrick much less making it last much longer; constantly cycleing the firebrick causes it to crumble.
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Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: dangit On: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:27 pm

Will follow your advice on keeping a constant fire to reduce soot and also not stress the firebricks too much. Now teach me more, what is TSP?
dangit
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 523

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: envisage On: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:42 am

dangit wrote:Thanks for an explanation on the hollow brick channels envisage.

Our area is just entering the heating season. Just a few cold nights/days so far but I imagine you all have already been firing up for a few weeks. In your experience have you been able to observe that as the fresh, hot air rises thru the channels the volatiles actually flame up as they burn-off?

Considering the size of the 523's firebox is 2 cubic feet (1.167' X 1.167' X 1.5' = 2.04 cf) is it recommend to keep it filled up? If so, I would hope that much coal would take a good while to burn because that would be about 5% of a ton of coal. The little experience I have burning coal was years ago as a young kid visiting my grandparents. Wish I had paid more attention. I remember going to the coal yard with my grandfather. He would handpick thru the pile for the big chunks. Some of those were 6" x 12" and some much bigger. He just loaded them into the stove whole and I don't remember him spending much time fussing around with the stove so they must have given a good burn time.

My big concern at this time is the poor condition of the oval boot (see photo). I have search all over the internet for one that measures 8.5" X 4.5" but have not found a replacement boot. Any instructions you might want to give me will be much appreciated.

Thanks, Terry for answering the question regarding the lack of gaskets around the loading door.


Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you on this. I just got my Warm Morning Model 400 hooked up to the chimney Saturday night. What an amazing coal stove. The blue flame that comes from each of the 4 flue corners is an amazing thing to watch. I have loaded mine up with 3.5 5-gallon buckets of anthracite coal, and this thing is putting out heat like nobody's business! This unit holds about 100 pounds of coal at once. I can only keep the ash pan draft door thingee only a little bit otherwise I would easily overfire this beastie. I would definitely fill it up to the top of the firebrick. I have put in everything from pea to nut to stove coal and it is burning everything up ashes. I can't help you much on the oval boot, as mine is a 6 inch round going to an 8 inch into the chimney. I hope you are having a warm time with yours buddy! :-)
envisage
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Werner Foundry 350a
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 400, Fire Boss Wood/Coal Hyrbrid
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat, Pea, Chestnut and Stove

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: envisage On: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:45 am

dangit wrote:OK - ole dangit has the Warm Morning loaded for another cold, windy night. Wanted to show a pic of the big chunks the size of melons this Warm Morning will burn. After the volatiles burn off the chunks swell, split open and burn cherry red to white hot with just a little draft. Flames and smoke are fairly low after the vols burn off. Nice blue flames are dancing around sometimes but mostly are yellow. No clinkers and a good burn down to a fine ash that is a very light brown color. Flue temps at the oval boot run from 250 to 350 with just a little draft. With 1/2 to 2/3 of a load the burn lasts 8 to 10 hours and no problems getting it fired up again.

Thanks to all who have helped with advice. Now, just wondering how to keep soot buildup to a minimum. I've read burning a little cardboard helps. Any ideas?


Hey Dangit, how do you know that you are getting soot? Can you see it building up inside the burn chamber, or are you checking the stovepipe?
envisage
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Werner Foundry 350a
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 400, Fire Boss Wood/Coal Hyrbrid
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat, Pea, Chestnut and Stove

Re: The care and feeding of a Warm Morning stove

PostBy: Bones On: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:43 am

I purchased a warm morning model 414 for only 20 bucks. All I know about this heater is that it's for coal. I use wood. It maintains 80 degree temps. in my 1400 sq. ft. home. We have to open the windows in the freezing cold. I love this thing. I recently learned to keep the air vent on the top door open for wood burning and the bottom vent open for burning coal. Is this correct? Can anyone give me more info. on this heater so I can get the best use out of it?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: Model 414