Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: spc On: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:15 am

Richard S. wrote:hmmm, guess I'll get my CSI kit out to read that.... oh wait that's a bunch of BS. :P

You do know you have to click on the image to view it? :P
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: kootch88 On: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:58 pm

This obviously can be disputed, hell, anything can be disputed, but it is an interesting read none the less.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... e-part-ii/
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:39 am

I read much of the suit filed with the court. Berg doesn't seem like the brightest lawyer or he has no staff to dress up his language in his brief. His writing wasn 't the greatest. Anyway, He makes some very cogent points, though.

First, the constitution doesn't define natural born citizen. In most minds it means someone born in the US to at least one US citizen parent. Barack would qualify under such an interpretation. However, there is a question as to the validity of his birth record. Apparently he may have been born in Kenya because there is a record that the Kenyans wouldn't let his momma on the plane because she was preggers. No matter. If he was born in Kenya and his momma being a US citizen, came back to the US, she could petition for his citizenship after five years of residency. Problem is, she didn't do it--no records of that action. Then she moves to Indonesia & marries another guy, an indonesian. There Barack becomes a citizen of Indonesia, different name, passport, etc. (Barack has six aliases, btw). She moves back to the states where she maybe, maybe not, files petition for his repatriation but no one can find any records of this.

His birth certificate is challenged. The HI document on his website is a copy, not certified, printed out on a 2001 form in 2007 by a laser printer. There is a problem, no doubt. It may be able to be rectified but I am appalled that it hasn't been up to this point. It would be nice if the Federa Election Commission would weigh in on this matter for the sake of the nation.
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:55 am

spc wrote:Below is a copy of a HAWAIIAN CERTIFICATION" OF LIVE BIRTH & an original HAWAIIAN "CERTIFICATE" OF BIRTH.
Notice box 7c. (County, State or Foreign Country)

Obama COLB.jpg


Makes you wonder why the original was never produced. :o



Exactly.

My question is why hasn't the Federal Election Commission asked to see the original? It should have been settled along time ago by agency verification. I don't know of any verification.
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:57 am

Devil505 wrote:
spc wrote:Makes you wonder why the original was never produced. :o


You have a charge or suspicion to go along with that thought Stephen?
If so, have the courage to spit it out like Terry (coalkirk) did. If not, what was the purpose of your post? (to distract? confuse?)


I have one...................IT DOESN'T FREAKING EXIST AND THEY HAVE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO COVER IT UP.

How's that, devil?
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:13 am

mikeandgerry wrote:My question is why hasn't the Federal Election Commission asked to see the original? It should have been settled along time ago by agency verification.


Exactly, this issue isn't going to go away even if he wins the election. Lets suppose for minute he gets elected and its determined he's ineligible at a later date. Politics aside the last thing we need is a sitting President that is not eligible to be President especially considering this election, and I hate to say it but his race as well. This has the potential to cause a great deal of harm to this country on so may fronts its mind boggling.
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:44 am

If there was any legal basis for all of this speculation, Hillary would have had him disqualified over a year ago.

Grab at the next straw please.
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:46 am

mikeandgerry wrote:
Devil505 wrote:
spc wrote:Makes you wonder why the original was never produced. :o


You have a charge or suspicion to go along with that thought Stephen?
If so, have the courage to spit it out like Terry (coalkirk) did. If not, what was the purpose of your post? (to distract? confuse?)


I have one...................IT DOESN'T FREAKING EXIST AND THEY HAVE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO COVER IT UP.

How's that, devil?


We still trying to prove that he's an Al Quieda plant, planning a crashing Air Force One into the Capital Dome?
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:05 am

Well Devil the easiest way to end speculation would have been him to produce the certificate isn't it?
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:18 am

Richard S. wrote:Well Devil the easiest way to end speculation would have been him to produce the certificate isn't it?


No Richard, that wouldn't end anything.

You know the "Swiftboaters" would challenge ANY document as "Phony" because,....hmmmmm....Let's see:

1. The ink doesn't match the ink used on all other birth certificates from the same source?

2. The paper can be proven to have come from the Pakistan Tribal Area?

3. A careful examination under an electron microscope reveals Obama's name was super-imposed over another (original) name on the document?. (let's see if we cam make out that original name........Looks like....Osama Bin Kadin??....That "K" could be an "L" though) :gee:

4. Carbon dating of the document proves it was manufactured last Tuesday?

I could probably go on for pages & pages! :lol:



Your problem Richard is that you are to honest a man. You aren't devious enough to think like these guys.
I, on the other hand, have no such problems/limitations! :twisted: :devil: :eek2:
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:35 am

So not producing it to furhter fuel speculation instead of putting it to rest was the best decision? We wouldn't even be having this conversation. :roll:
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:43 am

Richard S. wrote:So not producing it to furhter fuel speculation instead of putting it to rest was the best decision? We wouldn't even be having this conversation. :roll:


There is no way to stop the McCain camp's speculation Richard. That was the point of my above post.
No matter how absurd the speculation or how much they must torture logic & the English language to express it, they will ALWAYS find "fuel" for their speculation......That's what these guy do for a living Richard....Lie, cheat, steal, distract, corrupt, infect. etc.......They are EXPERTS at it.......... & LOVE their life's work. :eek2: :devil:
(I, on the other hand, like to get them comfortably ensconced in Leavenworth Prison when I can) :up:
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:05 am

Devil505 wrote:
spc wrote:You figure it out, your the X - DEA agent.


Pretty juvenile response there Stephen....You know I already figured it out & explained it......Same motivations as John McCain ...........To distract & confuse.....Nothing more.



The pot calling the kettle black !!! Dev you post thousands of posts with your foaming at the mouth hatred of anything Republican, cherry pick bits to run with and conpletely ignore documented facts [ like the congressional record] . This in my mind is very 'Juvenile'

I think if you sat back are did a search on your 3000+ politically slanted posts.. even you would be nauseated from the bile and vitriol in your slanted outlook.

God help us all.. I can see the next world wide depression on the horizon,, fueled by a liberal socialist democrat, elected to the presidency by an ignorant US public, driven by a slanted US media.

And the whole world will suffer for it, not the least of all the US citizens who rely on an economy for jobs and an income.. The drones who work for the government will keep collecting their paychecks.. and their pensions. and the us taxpayers will be paying more and more to support the ever growing hordes of government drones, sucking the lifeblood from the country...

God help us all.. if Obama is elected.. and unfortunately the general public of America has apparently been duped again into voting for a good orator, instead of a good leader..

Greg L.

I'm glad for once that I'm getting old,, I don't have my whole life in front of me with an 'obamamerica' to live in.. the country is starting to spin,, like the water in the toilet bowl... and soon we will be another 'has been' country, thanks to the socialism of the liberals..
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: charlie On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:31 am

This one particular issues is very disturbing to me. Yes, there are lots of distractions, but this is such a no-brainer. Just produce the birth certificate. It like someone swearing they don't have something in their hand. Easy enough, open your hand and let's have a look. Undoubtedly, there will then be debate about what "have" means, or how microscopic a thing can be to qualify for "something," but just open it up! The singular unwillingness to produce the birth certificate so that it can be torn apart as it invariably would be is utterly frightening and outrageous. Indeed, God help us all.
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Re: Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court

PostBy: spc On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:40 am

LsFarm wrote:The pot calling the kettle black !!!

Now I'm offended, please don't associate me in any way with the :devil:.
:lol:
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