Election Predictions

Who will win the Presidential Election & by how mny % points?

Poll ended at Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:38 pm

Obama
23
48%
McCain
24
50%
Barr
0
No votes
Paul
1
2%
Nader
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 48

Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:05 am

Someone obviously is a Rush fan. Yesterday Rush said he didn't want to make a big deal out of the Aunt, yet spent 2 days talking about it. It was ok for Bush to have a Republican Congress who rubber stamped everything for 4 years, in which time Bush never vetoed anything, but it is unheard of to have a Democratic president and Congress? What is wrong with this picture?


:lol: You don't seem to be a RUSH fan judging by what you wrote but you listened to Rush for 2 hours? I listen to Rush but I like the guy.

That said, the Repubicans also suffered a wholesale slaughter 2 years ago at the hands of the ENTIRE electorate. I would be a liar if I said I liked the unmitagated power they held and the way they acted, but the reason they blew it wasn't becuase they were too CONSERVATIVE, it was becuase they acted like FISCAL LIBERALS. Pelosi and Reid along with the new Democrat Majority promised all sorts of things that they've never acted on, they are simply inept with polling numbers at 10% approval ratings. I also predict we will have a Fillibuster proof Dem congress that will along with Obama will do things to this country that will weaken our Constitution and destroy some of our most basic Rights the likes of which we've never seen.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: 14x300 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:35 pm

I also predict we will have a Fillibuster proof Dem congress that will along with Obama will do things to this country that will weaken our Constitution and destroy some of our most basic Rights the likes of which we've never seen.




Like listening in on private phone calls of the citizen's of the U.S.?






Listening to Rush or Hannity for that matter is like watching Seinfeld. It's great for laughs. I picture the two of them at night checking closets and looking under their beds for terrorists. Rush keep saying he does the show with half his brain tied behind his back and it shows. I recall earlier this year he was against McCain, was he not? I am not sure what he is worried about if Obama is elected. He will still rake in millions for the next 4-8 years tearing the Democrats apart, just as he has the last 8 years Praising the Republican party. He is in a no lose situation. One positive note to all of this Hannity swore Santorum was going to come back and pull the upset, and he thinks Mccain will do the same.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:45 pm

Percentage winner will win by: Obama wins in a 54/45 landslide.

Congressional Seats:
House: Dems will make substantial gains.
Senate: Dems 57 Pubs 41
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:53 pm

So what will happen if Obama is elected and we have another USS Cole incident . Will he do a Clinton and just ignore it ? I just don't trust the guy when it come to foreign policy . He gives a good speech I have to give him that . I just think when the curtain closes most people will either vote McCain or an independent .
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:56 pm

Devil505 wrote:
Mike Wilson wrote:Is McCain better? In my opinion, yes, but that doesn't count for much.


Considering that McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time, still supports & wants to continue his major economic & foreign policies (& I'm guessing would retain many Bush advisers, speech writers & even Cabinet members), please explain why you think McCain would not be just 4 more years of a Bush Presidency?
Specifically, what major policies would be different under a President McCain?


The problem with Bush is: 1) he became a fiscal liberal. 2) He should have prosecuted a faster, better planned war in the beginning. 3) He was a poor communicator made worse by a ravenous traditional media who hated him since 2000 and his squeaker election.

McCain has none of the above problems except, like all republicans, no favorable treatment in the traditional media.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:03 pm

Flyer5 wrote:So what will happen if Obama is elected and we have another USS Cole incident . Will he do a Clinton and just ignore it ? I just don't trust the guy when it come to foreign policy . He gives a good speech I have to give him that . I just think when the curtain closes most people will either vote McCain or an independent .


We can only hope that the Bandwagon Effect doesn't overshadow the Bradley Effect.

The first lady cookie bake-off in a prominent woman's magazine, which has pitted the candidate's wives and their best cookie recipes since 1992 has been an accurate predicter all those years. Cindy's Oatmeal cookies whooped Michelle's shortbreads portending doom for Barack.

However, the elementary school elections over the last 30 years have been the best indicator of presidential victors. Obama wins among elementary schoolers in a landslide. Does the Bradley effect happen in the family? I suspect it does.

Only time will tell who wins.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:04 pm

Flyer5 wrote:So what will happen if Obama is elected and we have another USS Cole incident . Will he do a Clinton and just ignore it ? I just don't trust the guy when it come to foreign policy . He gives a good speech I have to give him that . I just think when the curtain closes most people will either vote McCain or an independent .


Wait a minute....Wasn't it the hero of the Republican party, Ronald Reagan who cut an ran from Beirut after the Marine Barracks bombing?....Why yes it was....Cut & ran!@
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:07 pm

mikeandgerry wrote:McCain has none of the above problems except, like all republicans, no favorable treatment in the traditional media.


Nobody watches anything but Fox News anymore anyway, right? The fact is that McCain=Bush by his own admission.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:19 pm

Devil505 wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:So what will happen if Obama is elected and we have another USS Cole incident . Will he do a Clinton and just ignore it ? I just don't trust the guy when it come to foreign policy . He gives a good speech I have to give him that . I just think when the curtain closes most people will either vote McCain or an independent .


Wait a minute....Wasn't it the hero of the Republican party, Ronald Reagan who cut an ran from Beirut after the Marine Barracks bombing?....Why yes it was....Cut & ran!@


I wasn't speaking Democrat vs Republican .I was speaking OB vs McCain . I don't feel Obama Hussain has what it takes to protect this country . Hell I would vote democrat if one worth while would run . Just hasn't happened yet .
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:29 pm

Flyer5 wrote:I don't feel Obama Hussain has what it takes to protect this country


& I think you're wrong.... If you believe the polls, so do most other Americans. We'll all find out together on Tuesday night though. :?: :up: :devil:
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:41 pm

The US was part of a multinational force in Beirut mediating a civil war. Hezbollah was new at the time and likely behind the incident but intelligence was not sure. France and the US planned retaliatory missions. France acted on one small target. Weinberger opposed intervention for diplomatic reasons. The Amal militia, which supported France and the US in the mediation, asked the US and French forces to leave. The mastermind of the incident was indicted by a US grand jury. The mastermind was killed in a car bomb attack in Syria by unknown assailants.

The US press, ever vigilant in their criticisms of Republican presidents past and present, insisted that the weak response emboldened terrorists. Actually Reagan excercised good restraint and judgement. No such claim of emboldenment was made against Bill Clinton for the USS Cole. The best the press could muster was shared responsibility with GWBush who became president a few months later. According to Rice, Bush did not want to respond to terrorist events one at a time like swatting flies. He wanted to pursue an wider strategy against al qaeda. Both of which were wise judgements. I'll even give Bill Clinton credit too.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:42 pm

You won't find out Tuesday night, you will after he guts the armed services.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:48 pm

Devil505 wrote:
mikeandgerry wrote:McCain has none of the above problems except, like all republicans, no favorable treatment in the traditional media.


Nobody watches anything but Fox News anymore anyway, right? The fact is that McCain=Bush by his own admission.


Get your facts straight, devil. (oh wait, you CAN'T get your facts straight. You use the traditional press, oops, sorry)

These are the results of a nationwide Harris Poll of 2,985 U.S. adults surveyed online between January 12 and 17, 2006 by Harris Interactive®.

While broadcast television news appears to be the most popular medium sought, many adults also get their news several times a week or daily by going online to get news (64%), reading a local daily newspaper (63%), listening to radio news broadcasts (54%), listening to talk radio stations (37%), listening to satellite news programming (19%), and reading a national newspaper (18%).

A key indicator of media usage is age. Specifically:

Matures (those 59 years of age and older) are most likely to rely on more traditional media outlets for information, with at least eight in 10 Matures saying they watch local broadcast news (88%), watch network broadcast or cable news (88%), or read a local daily newspaper (80%) several times a week or daily.
Baby boomers (those 40 to 58 years of age) use the most varied types of media, with at least one in five boomers using each medium examined several times a week or daily. Along with Matures, Baby Boomers are most likely to watch both local and broadcast or cable television newscasts (83% and 74%, respectively), read local daily newspapers (66%), and listen to radio newscasts (64%) and talk radio (40%). Boomers and Gen Xers (those 28 to 39 years of age) are most likely to go online for news (68% and 70%, respectively).
Generation Xers are most likely to get their news several times a week or daily from local broadcast stations (69%) or online sources (68%).
Echo boomers (those 18 to 27 years of age) are the least frequent users of media, with only about half or less getting information several times a week or daily from each of the media types measured.



Further, a recent poll found that 70% of Americans felt the traditional media was extremely biased toward Obama.

It used to be called "brainwashing" and only weaker minds fall for it. Apparently now it's fashionable to be brainwashed.
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:50 pm

You won't find out Tuesday night, you will after he guts the armed services.



So we can compare Obama to Clinton then . I wonder how he likes his cigars ? :D
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Re: Election Predictions

PostBy: Devil505 On: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:58 pm

mikeandgerry wrote:Get your facts straight, devil. (oh wait, you CAN'T get your facts straight. You use the traditional press, oops, sorry)


In fact, I watch MSNBC, Fox, CNN & almost all the others, from time to time. I like to hear all sides as no one network is REALLY fair & balanced. Nothing wrong with media having a bias as long as the informed voter gets to see all sides.
(problem I have with some members here is they seem to be watching Sean Hannity without also trying Keith Olberman occasionally too! ;) ....Neither one will give you an accurate picture, by themselves)

mikeandgerry wrote:Further, a recent poll found that 70% of Americans felt the traditional media was extremely biased toward Obama.

It used to be called "brainwashing" and only weaker minds fall for it. Apparently now it's fashionable to be brainwashed.


I keep hearing that argument, trying to explain why American voters blame Republicans for the mess we are in. (liberal media brainwashing)
The problem is the same people who make the above argument will then explain that more voters watch Fox News for their information than all the other networks combined.......Which is it????........They are mutually exclusive arguments :)
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