Adjusting Harman TLC

Adjusting Harman TLC

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:23 am

Epilogue 2:

They just had 2 pallets of Blaschak delivered & Wayne is not moving fast enough for my daughter. She just called & is officially taking over coal stove duties from her husband! :lol:

I'll be going over there today & starting it for her & showing her what to do.......She's so much like her Mother!! :lol: :lol: (yeah right!)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Adjusting Harman TLC

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:21 pm

I just got back from starting my daughter's TLC & I'm not sure how to adjust her baro damper? I haven't taken the manometer over there yet but I know she has a helluva draft! (no need to even start a draft going...Her chimney practically sucked my arm up the flue, b4 I lit it!~! :lol: )

I adjusted the counterweight on the baro so that, with a pretty good fire going & outside temps in the mid 40's, it was opening aprox. 1/4"-1/3". (I haven't used a baro in so long I forgot how to set it correctly)
Any baro damper setting suggestions for a very strong drafting, new chimney?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
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Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:24 pm

Dick I think for a hand fired stove, you'd want it about .05- .07 so it sounds like once set, the damper will probably be open quite a bit more than it is now.
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Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:29 pm

coalkirk wrote:Dick I think for a hand fired stove, you'd want it about .05- .07 so it sounds like once set, the damper will probably be open quite a bit more than it is now


How do you set it for specific readings like that Terry?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:50 pm

You slide the weight on the door of the damper to get the desired draft. There are marks on the slide for rough adjustments.

Make sure you have the baro set for H if it is in a horizontal pipe, or V if in a vertical flue pipe.

Read on the site there is a lot of info.

Greg L
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Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:16 pm

What Greg said, then double check and fine tune with a manometer. The difference in heat loss and coal use will be considerable if not properly set.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
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Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:53 pm

Thanks Greg & Terry....I'll check the baro again tomorrow. I just came back from her house & couldn't believe how warm the whole place is! Unfinished basement with no floor vents cut in yet & just the basement door open & the whole place is a fairly uniform 70* at a stove temp of 260*. (37* outside) Their house is tight as a drum & super well insulated. The basement, (where the TLC is) has a bulkhead door which leaks enough air to make up for the stove I guess. I'm very pleased so far but we'll have to wait for the colder weather! :)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: TimV On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:59 pm

If your floor is warm.......Your warm.....something to do with cold feet ....
Heated for a long time with just a large stove in basement with no duct work hooked up or extra holes cut in and kept door closed and it was toasty :D
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Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:08 pm

TimV wrote:If your floor is warm.......Your warm.....something to do with cold feet ..


That might be part of it Tim. I had my son-in-law take down all the bats of insulation that was under the floor (in basement ceiling joists) & maybe the floor is radiating more heat than I figured. Whatever is at work is fine!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:43 pm

I just got back from my daughters house & with the TLC's air slider all the way closed the stove was roaring along at 350*. It is fairly windy & the baro damper was open pretty wide. I checked the ash door, cleaned out the rim & flicked a small piece of ash off the door gasket. The ash door doesn't seem to close as tight as mine with the latch locked fully. Bottom line is where the hell is the stove getting air with everything closed?? I told my daughter to check the temp again in about 30 minutes. I think a problem is the new chimney sucks like a central vac system! If the temp starts to rise again, should i have them remove the bar damper face plate & just leave a wide open "T" fitting? Is there a way to permanently reduce the chimney draft? Should I have them open the cleanout door & leave it open?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC-2000

Re: Daughter Ripped off?

PostBy: Devil505 On: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:06 pm

I just talked to her & the stove had dropped to 160*. I had her prop open the chimney cleanout door to help kill the draft.
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Re: Adjusting Harman TLC

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:19 pm

Is she going to monitor the stove 24/7 to know when to close the chimney cleanout door??

Maybe you need to use a cigarette, or an inscence stick to generate some smoke,, and see if the door gaskets are leaking?? maybe they need replacing.. or is the slider air vent on the ashpan door loose??

You need to be able to shut the fire off by shutting off the air to the stove.. not by opening the cleanout door..

Greg L..
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Re: Adjusting Harman TLC

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:51 pm

LsFarm wrote:Is she going to monitor the stove 24/7 to know when to close the chimney cleanout door??


The cleanout door is closed & we'll only open it when someone is there to cut down the draft. I did it yesterday & the manometer read went to .01


LsFarm wrote:Maybe you need to use a cigarette, or an inscence stick to generate some smoke,, and see if the door gaskets are leaking?? maybe they need replacing.. or is the slider air vent on the ashpan door loose??


Good point. Her stove will run without losing temp with ash door closed & air slider closed as well. It is getting air from somewhere. My door seems to latch a little tighter than hers.

I'm going to have her contact the thieves that sold her the stove & tell them her ash door assembly is defective & we want it replaced.
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Re: Adjusting Harman TLC

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:59 pm

Forget the warantee, just check and fix it yourself,, you know like a regular person.. I doubt that the $5 worth of new door gasket is worth the argueing with the dealer..

It sounds like you need a bigger or a second baro damper to control the high draft from that 'super chimney'.. or jsut better seals on the stove..

Those slider air controls are often leaky.. is the slider loose, can you rattle it with the knob?? There usually is a tensioning bolt or bolt/spring/nut arrangement on the slider to keep it snug.. maybe this is all that is needed, a tweak to increase the pressure on the slider..

Greg L.
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Re: Adjusting Harman TLC

PostBy: Devil505 On: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:03 pm

LsFarm wrote:Forget the warantee, just check and fix it yourself,, you know like a regular person.. I doubt that the $5 worth of new door gasket is worth the argueing with the dealer..


I will check it today Greg but it's a brand new stove they paid $1600.00 for & I'm not about to replace a brand new door gasket & have them void the warranty for what they'll claim was improper work on our part.
(Their ash door has a tendency to fall off the hinge pins if opened to far also. Mine has never done that)
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