Servitude to be required of your Kids

http://www.change.gov/americaserves/serves_section/

Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year

There's some "change" for ya. Is it just me or are these types of progrmas very prevalent in communist countries. Certainly nothing wrong with encouraging public service but this is beyond belief. Have a nice day Comrade.

I'm sure his kids will be doing this.

Many schools already require this for graduation credits.

Besides, whats wrong with asking kids to get involved with helping people in their own community rather than sitting on their butts in front of the television playing video games?

Maybe if kids had to get involved in community projects when they are young they will learn that the world is larger than themselves. Who knows, they may even become productive members of society.

All three of my kids had to do a community service project to graduate high school. It has been a requirement for the last 15 years at the high school. One of my son's volunteered at the local VA hospital for his project. I was glad he chose that because I believe it gave him a little appreciation of the human cost of war.

I don't think there was any such requirement at the middle school.

beemerboy wrote:whats wrong with asking kids to get involved

I'm all for "asking" but it says "require".

developing a plan to require

Will it count if the community service is done through a local church? If not, why? Hello ACLU.

They allow the community service through church related programs here. Even the courts allow faith based community service programs as penal sentences. Haven't heard anyone, including the ACLU having a problem with it.

kootch88 wrote:They allow the community service through church related programs here. Even the courts allow faith based community service programs as penal sentences. Haven't heard anyone, including the ACLU having a problem with it.

Glad to here it. But when you go with a federal government enforced requirement, all bets may be off.

Looks like Acorn just got a whole bunch of new volunteers

snooze913 wrote:Looks like Acorn just got a whole bunch of new volunteers

They'll get extra credit for acorn related community service.

Richard S. wrote:http://www.change.gov/americaserves/serves_section/

Certainly nothing wrong with encouraging public service but this is beyond belief. Have a nice day Comrade.

We've always encouraged voluteerism in this country, in fact I dare it's a hallmark of our society.

I got chills when I read about this, "Youth Corps" instantly came to mind.
Along with Chris Matthews and his latest comments:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/0 ... 41768.html

Oh man, HOPE and Change.

beemerboy wrote:Many schools already require this for graduation credits.

Besides, whats wrong with asking kids to get involved with helping people in their own community rather than sitting on their butts in front of the television playing video games?

Maybe if kids had to get involved in community projects when they are young they will learn that the world is larger than themselves. Who knows, they may even become productive members of society.

Kind of hard to argue with that when you put it that way...but.....on the opposite side you must look deeper and this what bothers those of us who read futher and are not satisfied with taking a POLITICIANS word at face value.
Read this, incredibly it's posted on the Daily Kos:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

America has never had a civilian military force. Canada, Britain, France, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, and Australia have never had civilian military forces. However, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jong II, Mao and Saddam had civilian military forces. Am I being too partisan by simply requesting that Obama not have a civilian national security force in America's streets, no matter the good intentions. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/ ... 5?new=true

Am I wrong to suggest that these "CORPS" are really youth indoctrination centers and nothing but the beginning of something more.

So long as they have broad choices and can freely choose the type of community service they wish to perform, I would agree with it. The choices, however, cannot be solely be of one political persuasion.

The republicans lost this election in part because they did not build a new community within youth. They have left that to the democrats and the democrats have rightly ascended through their efforts.

Political correctness, which started in the seventies, was not intelligently countered by any republican arguments. The only arguments they made for their side were: "That's the way it's always been" which is not an argument at all. Youth were not taught the traditions of culture and more importantly the backround story of our culture and why it is still relevant. Similarly, religious leadership in the US hasn't made its case very well for its institution either. It will take generations to rebuild the lost generational knowledge, if it can be done at all.

If this program is institued with Manditory Community Service for students how about Manditory Service before a person recieves a Welfare Check?

The comment you speak of was one of his speeches and right after I heard the speech and comment I switched channels to fox news and low and behold they did what they always do and thats take it out of context ( like how people will do with a bible verse ). They ( Fox ) didn't talk about the rest of the thought or idea at all just the one sentence. So I thought to myself well if it's good enough for fox to pick a word or sentence and not the whole idea it's good enough for me. Naaaaaaaaa I just can't do it I wasn't raised that way. I was raised that there are some people that really do have a better way to do it and all I have to do is listen, I can always change my mind. I think thats why the founders of this great country made it so a person has 4 years to show us what idea they have, and how it works, not 4 days. Oh wait the President elect is just that President elect, not even sworn in yet and we are already blaming him for everything.

TSection 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.



he 13th amendment to the Constitution outlaws involuntary servitude. Period.