Am I Left-Handed or Right-Handed?

 
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Post by tvb » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 5:22 pm

Got the call today that my Keystoker KA-6 should be here within a couple weeks. They wanted to know if the door needed to be on the left side or right side.

I, unfortunately for me, had no clue what the caller was talking about.

Here's the basement layout:

So, do I want a liberal boiler or a conservative one?

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This is the oil burner. My plan is to power vent it.

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To the right of the boiler is a pad I put down in anticipation of the KA-6.

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Above the lights leaningg against the chimney is an old entrance to the chimney. My best guess is it was for the coal boiler before it was taken out. The plan is the punch through that spot and seal up the current hole that has the oil burner attached.

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The other option is to move the oil burner to the pad to it's left (the just in case plan A doesn't work pad) and put the coal burner where the oil one is. That seems like a lot more plumbing however.

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Post by sterling40man » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 5:48 pm

If you want the doors to open up facing you, just as you stood when you took the last picture, then you need a right handed boiler. This would mean that your hopper is on the left and the flue pipe is on the right. Picture having your chest up against the end of the hopper. A right handed boiler would have the doors on the right side.

Take a look at member 218bee's boiler: Steady Progress
This is a right hand boiler. Hope this helped.

I ordered a K6 (right hand) on June 1. My dealer still doesn't know when I'll get it. Hopefully soon!

 
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Post by Freddy » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 5:59 pm

When looking at the picture in the link that Bob gave, make sure you realize that you are looking at the chimney end of the boiler.

 
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Post by tvb » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 6:44 pm

Beautiful.

Thanks guys - that was exactly what I needed to find out. Right handed it is.

 
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Post by coalkirk » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 6:48 pm

Are you planning to use that chimney? From one of your pictures it looks like that chimney has a flexible stainless steel liner in it.

 
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Post by tvb » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 6:58 pm

Yes - using the chimney for the stove and power venting the oil burner.

 
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Post by rockwood » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 7:31 pm

Where will you vent the water heater?


 
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Post by tvb » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 7:38 pm

Chimney, along with the coal boiler. Could that be problematic? It's currently vented out with the oil boiler.

 
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Post by BIG BEAM » Wed. Nov. 12, 2008 11:00 pm

THe coal boiler and gas HWH in the same chimney is not a good idea.First the coal boiler will need a GOOD draft and the gas water heaters hood will let in to much air and reduce your draft.Second it may not meet code.
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Post by mrboyd » Thu. Nov. 13, 2008 3:20 am

Just an idea for the time being you could power vent the coal stove thru the window for the time being or you could replace the hot water heater with an electric one. The cost would be the same either way you go.

I believe code is no two appliances can share the same chimney.

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Post by Freddy » Thu. Nov. 13, 2008 4:20 am

I'm thinking an issue might be the water vapor from the propane heater. The one thing about coal ash is when it get's damp it makes an acid. Propane makes a lot of water when it burns. You might be asking your chimney to dissolve if the heater stays in it. Stainless DOES dissolve! I had a friend replace his flexible direct vent stainless this year after 13 yrs on just an oil boiler.

 
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Post by tvb » Thu. Nov. 13, 2008 7:43 pm

The hot water heater is a natural gas one that currently vents out through the same pipe as the oil burner. I figured it would be okay to combine them :o .

It's a pretty big chimney and rather tall - three floors and well above the roof line. I'm going to have it inspected sometime over the next couple weeks and will have the person installing the boiler advise on it. Is it possible to power vent in the same pipe as the oil burner? I don't expect the oil boiler to get much use and want to hook up the hot water coil in the boiler for use during the winter.

 
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Post by tvb » Thu. Nov. 13, 2008 7:47 pm

PS ----

Seeing as the HWH is probably nearing the end of it's life, I'll have the plumber advise if an electric HWH is a better option as suggested. Would it be worth exploring a tankless HWH?

 
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Post by coalkirk » Thu. Nov. 13, 2008 8:41 pm

A tankless would solve your venting issue as they are direct vent. But don't look for it to save you any money. All it saves you is the tstandby loss which is very minimal on a modern water heater. It still takes the same amount of energy to heat the water. One advantage is you should never run out of hot water. In some homes, that may not be an advantage. Running out of hot water is the only thing that gets somepeople out of the shower.

 
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Post by Razzler » Fri. Nov. 14, 2008 8:43 pm

Tvb, Why not get the hot water coil for the KA-6? And you can get electric hot water heater for the summer time use. The money you will save on the eletric all winter long by getting your hot water from the Ka-6 will probabley pay for the cost to buy a HWH.


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